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welcome to cyber talk radio I'm your
00:00:06 welcome to cyber talk radio I'm your

00:00:06 welcome to cyber talk radio I'm your host Brett PI a 20-year internet
00:00:08 host Brett PI a 20-year internet

00:00:08 host Brett PI a 20-year internet security veteran joined this week by the
00:00:11 security veteran joined this week by the

00:00:12 security veteran joined this week by the chief talent recruitment officer for
00:00:14 chief talent recruitment officer for

00:00:14 chief talent recruitment officer for tech block and I will let Jeanine
00:00:15 tech block and I will let Jeanine

00:00:15 tech block and I will let Jeanine introduce herself here in a minute you
00:00:17 introduce herself here in a minute you

00:00:17 introduce herself here in a minute you may wonder why are we talking about this
00:00:19 may wonder why are we talking about this

00:00:19 may wonder why are we talking about this in a cybersecurity radio program so if
00:00:21 in a cybersecurity radio program so if

00:00:21 in a cybersecurity radio program so if you've listened to any of our past
00:00:23 you've listened to any of our past

00:00:23 you've listened to any of our past programs you know you'll see that one of
00:00:24 programs you know you'll see that one of

00:00:24 programs you know you'll see that one of the themes we hit on is education and
00:00:27 the themes we hit on is education and

00:00:27 the themes we hit on is education and getting people interested in
00:00:28 getting people interested in

00:00:28 getting people interested in cybersecurity getting people interested
00:00:30 cybersecurity getting people interested

00:00:30 cybersecurity getting people interested in technology because I could talk to
00:00:32 in technology because I could talk to

00:00:32 in technology because I could talk to everybody and teach you all sorts of
00:00:34 everybody and teach you all sorts of

00:00:34 everybody and teach you all sorts of fancy cyber things but if there's none
00:00:36 fancy cyber things but if there's none

00:00:36 fancy cyber things but if there's none of you are going you know what I
00:00:37 of you are going you know what I

00:00:37 of you are going you know what I actually want to do this my career or I
00:00:39 actually want to do this my career or I

00:00:39 actually want to do this my career or I want to help grow and build this
00:00:41 want to help grow and build this

00:00:41 want to help grow and build this industry then none of that really
00:00:42 industry then none of that really

00:00:43 industry then none of that really matters so one of the things that we're
00:00:46 matters so one of the things that we're

00:00:46 matters so one of the things that we're doing here in the San Antonio ecosystem
00:00:48 doing here in the San Antonio ecosystem

00:00:48 doing here in the San Antonio ecosystem is across all the education spectrum
00:00:50 is across all the education spectrum

00:00:50 is across all the education spectrum there's things like Cass Tech going on
00:00:52 there's things like Cass Tech going on

00:00:52 there's things like Cass Tech going on there's all sorts of things that with
00:00:55 there's all sorts of things that with

00:00:55 there's all sorts of things that with five NSA accredited universities here
00:00:57 five NSA accredited universities here

00:00:57 five NSA accredited universities here we've had professors on or
00:00:59 we've had professors on or

00:00:59 we've had professors on or administration from most of those
00:01:01 administration from most of those

00:01:01 administration from most of those universities so you can listen to that
00:01:03 universities so you can listen to that

00:01:03 universities so you can listen to that on our website at wwlp.com
00:01:06 on our website at wwlp.com

00:01:06 on our website at wwlp.com or pocket cast on your Android device
00:01:09 or pocket cast on your Android device

00:01:09 or pocket cast on your Android device we're also moving tech companies into
00:01:13 we're also moving tech companies into

00:01:13 we're also moving tech companies into San Antonio the economic development
00:01:15 San Antonio the economic development

00:01:15 San Antonio the economic development foundation works on that and then tech
00:01:17 foundation works on that and then tech

00:01:17 foundation works on that and then tech block as well got started up a few years
00:01:19 block as well got started up a few years

00:01:19 block as well got started up a few years ago well let Jeanine tell that story
00:01:21 ago well let Jeanine tell that story

00:01:21 ago well let Jeanine tell that story here in a moment but there's lots going
00:01:23 here in a moment but there's lots going

00:01:23 here in a moment but there's lots going on growing our tech district here in
00:01:25 on growing our tech district here in

00:01:25 on growing our tech district here in downtown San Antonio so for those of you
00:01:28 downtown San Antonio so for those of you

00:01:28 downtown San Antonio so for those of you on 1200 W AI you're listening in our our
00:01:31 on 1200 W AI you're listening in our our

00:01:31 on 1200 W AI you're listening in our our home area if you're on I Heart Radio
00:01:33 home area if you're on I Heart Radio

00:01:33 home area if you're on I Heart Radio stream in this you could be anywhere in
00:01:35 stream in this you could be anywhere in

00:01:35 stream in this you could be anywhere in the US and you may not know about
00:01:37 the US and you may not know about

00:01:37 the US and you may not know about Houston Street we may talk about some
00:01:38 Houston Street we may talk about some

00:01:38 Houston Street we may talk about some local things going on here with tech
00:01:40 local things going on here with tech

00:01:40 local things going on here with tech block and what's happening in San
00:01:41 block and what's happening in San

00:01:41 block and what's happening in San Antonio ecosystem this week but I think
00:01:44 Antonio ecosystem this week but I think

00:01:44 Antonio ecosystem this week but I think the the role in what San Antonio is
00:01:46 the the role in what San Antonio is

00:01:46 the the role in what San Antonio is doing here with the tech block
00:01:49 doing here with the tech block

00:01:49 doing here with the tech block organization is an interesting one that
00:01:52 organization is an interesting one that

00:01:52 organization is an interesting one that could apply to any city out there that
00:01:54 could apply to any city out there that

00:01:54 could apply to any city out there that is looking to build develop and grow
00:01:56 is looking to build develop and grow

00:01:56 is looking to build develop and grow their tech ecosystem I think over the
00:01:58 their tech ecosystem I think over the

00:01:58 their tech ecosystem I think over the next decade it's not going to be just
00:02:01 next decade it's not going to be just

00:02:01 next decade it's not going to be just the Silicon Valley Bay Area not just New
00:02:04 the Silicon Valley Bay Area not just New

00:02:04 the Silicon Valley Bay Area not just New York and Boston I think you're gonna see
00:02:06 York and Boston I think you're gonna see

00:02:06 York and Boston I think you're gonna see tech districts pop up in many of the
00:02:08 tech districts pop up in many of the

00:02:08 tech districts pop up in many of the cities across the u.s. and those that
00:02:12 cities across the u.s. and those that

00:02:12 cities across the u.s. and those that can do some of these things well will
00:02:14 can do some of these things well will

00:02:14 can do some of these things well will end up on the trajectory that San
00:02:16 end up on the trajectory that San

00:02:16 end up on the trajectory that San Antonio's
00:02:17 Antonio's

00:02:17 Antonio's now and hopefully with a jeanine we can
00:02:20 now and hopefully with a jeanine we can

00:02:20 now and hopefully with a jeanine we can even accelerate this so you're a month
00:02:23 even accelerate this so you're a month

00:02:23 even accelerate this so you're a month into your role now yes almost a month
00:02:26 into your role now yes almost a month

00:02:26 into your role now yes almost a month almost a month
00:02:27 almost a month

00:02:27 almost a month okay so first up to give a little your
00:02:29 okay so first up to give a little your

00:02:29 okay so first up to give a little your background how did you find your way to
00:02:30 background how did you find your way to

00:02:30 background how did you find your way to San Antonio yeah good question so
00:02:33 San Antonio yeah good question so

00:02:33 San Antonio yeah good question so actually my husband is the reason that
00:02:36 actually my husband is the reason that

00:02:36 actually my husband is the reason that why we're here so we are both from
00:02:40 why we're here so we are both from

00:02:40 why we're here so we are both from Florida grew up there once you high
00:02:43 Florida grew up there once you high

00:02:43 Florida grew up there once you high school college there and my husband I
00:02:47 school college there and my husband I

00:02:47 school college there and my husband I took a job here in San Antonio about
00:02:49 took a job here in San Antonio about

00:02:49 took a job here in San Antonio about five years ago I think five years this
00:02:51 five years ago I think five years this

00:02:51 five years ago I think five years this summer so we found ourselves here and
00:02:55 summer so we found ourselves here and

00:02:55 summer so we found ourselves here and it's been it's been a great experience
00:02:56 it's been it's been a great experience

00:02:56 it's been it's been a great experience I've seen the city grow like crazy just
00:02:58 I've seen the city grow like crazy just

00:02:58 I've seen the city grow like crazy just over the last five years so I love just
00:03:00 over the last five years so I love just

00:03:00 over the last five years so I love just being able to talk about that from
00:03:01 being able to talk about that from

00:03:01 being able to talk about that from experience so here we are yeah going
00:03:06 experience so here we are yeah going

00:03:06 experience so here we are yeah going anywhere yeah that was one of the hard
00:03:08 anywhere yeah that was one of the hard

00:03:08 anywhere yeah that was one of the hard pieces we're gonna talk some more about
00:03:09 pieces we're gonna talk some more about

00:03:09 pieces we're gonna talk some more about recruiting and this bit is the the
00:03:12 recruiting and this bit is the the

00:03:13 recruiting and this bit is the the spousal relocations this was a huge
00:03:15 spousal relocations this was a huge

00:03:15 spousal relocations this was a huge problem for us a decade ago here in San
00:03:17 problem for us a decade ago here in San

00:03:17 problem for us a decade ago here in San Antonio because one person in a
00:03:19 Antonio because one person in a

00:03:19 Antonio because one person in a relationship may end up with a great job
00:03:20 relationship may end up with a great job

00:03:20 relationship may end up with a great job offer in San Antonio and the second
00:03:22 offer in San Antonio and the second

00:03:22 offer in San Antonio and the second person's like you can go because I can't
00:03:26 person's like you can go because I can't

00:03:26 person's like you can go because I can't find a job for me my career and and it
00:03:30 find a job for me my career and and it

00:03:30 find a job for me my career and and it just it doesn't make sense for us as a
00:03:31 just it doesn't make sense for us as a

00:03:31 just it doesn't make sense for us as a family it might be better for you but it
00:03:33 family it might be better for you but it

00:03:33 family it might be better for you but it doesn't make sense for us I think this
00:03:36 doesn't make sense for us I think this

00:03:36 doesn't make sense for us I think this is one where both of you you've great
00:03:39 is one where both of you you've great

00:03:39 is one where both of you you've great role you're in now but even the rest of
00:03:41 role you're in now but even the rest of

00:03:41 role you're in now but even the rest of time you were here you've been working
00:03:42 time you were here you've been working

00:03:42 time you were here you've been working in San Antonio there's been
00:03:43 in San Antonio there's been

00:03:43 in San Antonio there's been opportunities for both of you yeah
00:03:45 opportunities for both of you yeah

00:03:45 opportunities for both of you yeah absolutely and that was one of my
00:03:46 absolutely and that was one of my

00:03:46 absolutely and that was one of my concerns to be really honest coming here
00:03:48 concerns to be really honest coming here

00:03:48 concerns to be really honest coming here when I started looking at what what
00:03:51 when I started looking at what what

00:03:51 when I started looking at what what companies exist in San Antonio where can
00:03:54 companies exist in San Antonio where can

00:03:54 companies exist in San Antonio where can I go it was definitely a concern
00:03:56 I go it was definitely a concern

00:03:56 I go it was definitely a concern obviously things have panned out really
00:04:00 obviously things have panned out really

00:04:00 obviously things have panned out really well yeah you know Rackspace was a great
00:04:03 well yeah you know Rackspace was a great

00:04:03 well yeah you know Rackspace was a great opportunity they're an amazing company
00:04:05 opportunity they're an amazing company

00:04:05 opportunity they're an amazing company obviously one of the big ones here in
00:04:06 obviously one of the big ones here in

00:04:06 obviously one of the big ones here in San Antonio and then of course the the
00:04:09 San Antonio and then of course the the

00:04:09 San Antonio and then of course the the role that I'm in now is super exciting
00:04:11 role that I'm in now is super exciting

00:04:11 role that I'm in now is super exciting so things can it have have worked out
00:04:13 so things can it have have worked out

00:04:13 so things can it have have worked out any better yeah so for those listen out
00:04:16 any better yeah so for those listen out

00:04:16 any better yeah so for those listen out there what is is tech block what's kind
00:04:18 there what is is tech block what's kind

00:04:18 there what is is tech block what's kind of the goal of the organization how did
00:04:20 of the goal of the organization how did

00:04:20 of the goal of the organization how did it get set up
00:04:20 it get set up

00:04:20 it get set up absolutely so tech block is a 501 C 6
00:04:25 absolutely so tech block is a 501 C 6

00:04:25 absolutely so tech block is a 501 C 6 not-for-profits industry advocacy
00:04:28 not-for-profits industry advocacy

00:04:28 not-for-profits industry advocacy movement of more than 5,000 tech
00:04:30 movement of more than 5,000 tech

00:04:30 movement of more than 5,000 tech employee
00:04:31 employee

00:04:31 employee and people here in San Antonio really
00:04:34 and people here in San Antonio really

00:04:34 and people here in San Antonio really working to make San Antonio the city of
00:04:36 working to make San Antonio the city of

00:04:36 working to make San Antonio the city of choice I think that's you know one of
00:04:39 choice I think that's you know one of

00:04:39 choice I think that's you know one of our biggest things work we're here to
00:04:41 our biggest things work we're here to

00:04:41 our biggest things work we're here to create jobs we're here to create an
00:04:43 create jobs we're here to create an

00:04:43 create jobs we're here to create an environment that people want to be in
00:04:46 environment that people want to be in

00:04:46 environment that people want to be in and so it's it's just a it's a movement
00:04:49 and so it's it's just a it's a movement

00:04:49 and so it's it's just a it's a movement where we're creating jobs we're creating
00:04:52 where we're creating jobs we're creating

00:04:52 where we're creating jobs we're creating you know we're just creating more
00:04:54 you know we're just creating more

00:04:54 you know we're just creating more opportunities here and really bringing
00:04:57 opportunities here and really bringing

00:04:57 opportunities here and really bringing you know that recognition that San
00:04:59 you know that recognition that San

00:04:59 you know that recognition that San Antonio really needs and deserves yeah
00:05:01 Antonio really needs and deserves yeah

00:05:01 Antonio really needs and deserves yeah and this is one if you've been in San
00:05:04 and this is one if you've been in San

00:05:04 and this is one if you've been in San Antonio for a while there was the are we
00:05:06 Antonio for a while there was the are we

00:05:06 Antonio for a while there was the are we gonna allow ride-sharing here we can
00:05:08 gonna allow ride-sharing here we can

00:05:08 gonna allow ride-sharing here we can have a city ordinance against it and
00:05:09 have a city ordinance against it and

00:05:09 have a city ordinance against it and tech block one of the the first piece
00:05:11 tech block one of the the first piece

00:05:11 tech block one of the the first piece pieces that it took on was was getting
00:05:14 pieces that it took on was was getting

00:05:14 pieces that it took on was was getting that done in a sensible way so that San
00:05:18 that done in a sensible way so that San

00:05:18 that done in a sensible way so that San Antonio remains something that's
00:05:19 Antonio remains something that's

00:05:19 Antonio remains something that's attractive for recent college graduates
00:05:22 attractive for recent college graduates

00:05:22 attractive for recent college graduates Millennials to move in because for so
00:05:24 Millennials to move in because for so

00:05:24 Millennials to move in because for so long San Antonio been a net exporter of
00:05:26 long San Antonio been a net exporter of

00:05:26 long San Antonio been a net exporter of folks we've got a hundred and fifty
00:05:29 folks we've got a hundred and fifty

00:05:29 folks we've got a hundred and fifty thousand people in the Baer County area
00:05:31 thousand people in the Baer County area

00:05:31 thousand people in the Baer County area in post-secondary education right now
00:05:33 in post-secondary education right now

00:05:33 in post-secondary education right now and they would end up getting an
00:05:35 and they would end up getting an

00:05:35 and they would end up getting an associate's degree or enough classes
00:05:38 associate's degree or enough classes

00:05:38 associate's degree or enough classes that they would end up finding a job
00:05:40 that they would end up finding a job

00:05:40 that they would end up finding a job somewhere else or on through to a
00:05:41 somewhere else or on through to a

00:05:41 somewhere else or on through to a bachelor's or an advanced degree and
00:05:43 bachelor's or an advanced degree and

00:05:43 bachelor's or an advanced degree and then they would move out of the city yep
00:05:44 then they would move out of the city yep

00:05:44 then they would move out of the city yep yeah and it's still that's still
00:05:46 yeah and it's still that's still

00:05:46 yeah and it's still that's still something I think that we're facing
00:05:47 something I think that we're facing

00:05:47 something I think that we're facing today although from just my few short
00:05:51 today although from just my few short

00:05:51 today although from just my few short four weeks out there in the in the
00:05:53 four weeks out there in the in the

00:05:53 four weeks out there in the in the industry and working with some of the
00:05:54 industry and working with some of the

00:05:54 industry and working with some of the college grads and some of the grads from
00:05:56 college grads and some of the grads from

00:05:56 college grads and some of the grads from like code up and from open cloud Academy
00:05:59 like code up and from open cloud Academy

00:05:59 like code up and from open cloud Academy as well I'm starting to hear that people
00:06:01 as well I'm starting to hear that people

00:06:01 as well I'm starting to hear that people really want to stay in San Antonio they
00:06:03 really want to stay in San Antonio they

00:06:03 really want to stay in San Antonio they actually they want to be here and
00:06:05 actually they want to be here and

00:06:05 actually they want to be here and they're looking for opportunities and
00:06:06 they're looking for opportunities and

00:06:06 they're looking for opportunities and that's that's one way I'm plugging in
00:06:09 that's that's one way I'm plugging in

00:06:09 that's that's one way I'm plugging in you know right off the bat is working
00:06:12 you know right off the bat is working

00:06:12 you know right off the bat is working with those those grads and making sure
00:06:14 with those those grads and making sure

00:06:14 with those those grads and making sure that we keep them here because there are
00:06:15 that we keep them here because there are

00:06:15 that we keep them here because there are opportunities for them and so that's
00:06:18 opportunities for them and so that's

00:06:18 opportunities for them and so that's kind of one of the things I've been
00:06:20 kind of one of the things I've been

00:06:20 kind of one of the things I've been working on thus far yeah so what are
00:06:22 working on thus far yeah so what are

00:06:23 working on thus far yeah so what are some of the the challenges with this is
00:06:25 some of the the challenges with this is

00:06:25 some of the the challenges with this is you're starting you've got a fresh look
00:06:27 you're starting you've got a fresh look

00:06:27 you're starting you've got a fresh look at this you in you've worked for a large
00:06:30 at this you in you've worked for a large

00:06:30 at this you in you've worked for a large employer here and pulling into where
00:06:32 employer here and pulling into where

00:06:32 employer here and pulling into where large employers get a pretty good handle
00:06:35 large employers get a pretty good handle

00:06:35 large employers get a pretty good handle on visibility they get a pipeline going
00:06:37 on visibility they get a pipeline going

00:06:38 on visibility they get a pipeline going in they have inbound interest to careers
00:06:39 in they have inbound interest to careers

00:06:39 in they have inbound interest to careers pages but if you're a start-up and you
00:06:41 pages but if you're a start-up and you

00:06:41 pages but if you're a start-up and you throw up a careers page I mean good luck
00:06:42 throw up a careers page I mean good luck

00:06:42 throw up a careers page I mean good luck getting anyone qualified to put a resume
00:06:44 getting anyone qualified to put a resume

00:06:44 getting anyone qualified to put a resume to that so what are some of the
00:06:46 to that so what are some of the

00:06:46 to that so what are some of the challenges that you're seeing is you
00:06:48 challenges that you're seeing is you

00:06:48 challenges that you're seeing is you look at our growing ecosystem now yeah
00:06:50 look at our growing ecosystem now yeah

00:06:50 look at our growing ecosystem now yeah exactly and that's a good point and I
00:06:52 exactly and that's a good point and I

00:06:52 exactly and that's a good point and I think that's another part where I I get
00:06:54 think that's another part where I I get

00:06:54 think that's another part where I I get to come in and and play that part the
00:06:57 to come in and and play that part the

00:06:57 to come in and and play that part the startups just don't they don't have the
00:06:59 startups just don't they don't have the

00:06:59 startups just don't they don't have the resources to necessarily be out there on
00:07:03 resources to necessarily be out there on

00:07:03 resources to necessarily be out there on LinkedIn sourcing candidates and
00:07:05 LinkedIn sourcing candidates and

00:07:05 LinkedIn sourcing candidates and spending a lot of efforts so they are
00:07:06 spending a lot of efforts so they are

00:07:06 spending a lot of efforts so they are just putting up a job posting and kind
00:07:09 just putting up a job posting and kind

00:07:09 just putting up a job posting and kind of hoping and praying that the right
00:07:10 of hoping and praying that the right

00:07:10 of hoping and praying that the right person applies and I mean me as a
00:07:14 person applies and I mean me as a

00:07:14 person applies and I mean me as a recruiter and all the recruiters out
00:07:16 recruiter and all the recruiters out

00:07:16 recruiter and all the recruiters out there know that just I can just see you
00:07:17 there know that just I can just see you

00:07:17 there know that just I can just see you cringing here if you if you could see
00:07:19 cringing here if you if you could see

00:07:19 cringing here if you if you could see her in the studio it doesn't sound like
00:07:21 her in the studio it doesn't sound like

00:07:21 her in the studio it doesn't sound like she's cringing but you I can see that
00:07:23 she's cringing but you I can see that

00:07:23 she's cringing but you I can see that the hair going up in the back of her
00:07:24 the hair going up in the back of her

00:07:24 the hair going up in the back of her neck like I do you can't do that the
00:07:26 neck like I do you can't do that the

00:07:26 neck like I do you can't do that the source of the right person yeah I mean
00:07:29 source of the right person yeah I mean

00:07:29 source of the right person yeah I mean those early hires are so important for a
00:07:31 those early hires are so important for a

00:07:31 those early hires are so important for a startup as well they are they are and so
00:07:33 startup as well they are they are and so

00:07:33 startup as well they are they are and so going back to just the startups having
00:07:35 going back to just the startups having

00:07:35 going back to just the startups having the resources their other option is yes
00:07:38 the resources their other option is yes

00:07:38 the resources their other option is yes they can hire an agency or a firm but
00:07:42 they can hire an agency or a firm but

00:07:42 they can hire an agency or a firm but it's super expensive and for employers
00:07:45 it's super expensive and for employers

00:07:45 it's super expensive and for employers like a rack space or h-e-b maybe they
00:07:47 like a rack space or h-e-b maybe they

00:07:47 like a rack space or h-e-b maybe they can they can afford that and and it
00:07:49 can they can afford that and and it

00:07:49 can they can afford that and and it might be the route that they decide to
00:07:50 might be the route that they decide to

00:07:50 might be the route that they decide to go but for a start-up it's really hard
00:07:52 go but for a start-up it's really hard

00:07:52 go but for a start-up it's really hard for them to take those hard-earned
00:07:54 for them to take those hard-earned

00:07:54 for them to take those hard-earned dollars or some of that investment money
00:07:56 dollars or some of that investment money

00:07:56 dollars or some of that investment money and go spend it on a higher so again
00:07:59 and go spend it on a higher so again

00:07:59 and go spend it on a higher so again that's right I hope that I could come in
00:08:00 that's right I hope that I could come in

00:08:00 that's right I hope that I could come in and play really play that part and just
00:08:03 and play really play that part and just

00:08:03 and play really play that part and just getting I have so many people already
00:08:05 getting I have so many people already

00:08:05 getting I have so many people already reaching out looking for opportunities
00:08:08 reaching out looking for opportunities

00:08:08 reaching out looking for opportunities whether they're looking for something
00:08:11 whether they're looking for something

00:08:11 whether they're looking for something large or small but it's just kind of
00:08:13 large or small but it's just kind of

00:08:13 large or small but it's just kind of playing that sort of collaborator
00:08:16 playing that sort of collaborator

00:08:16 playing that sort of collaborator between the startups I know that they
00:08:18 between the startups I know that they

00:08:18 between the startups I know that they have these opportunities and putting the
00:08:20 have these opportunities and putting the

00:08:20 have these opportunities and putting the word out there to people who are looking
00:08:21 word out there to people who are looking

00:08:21 word out there to people who are looking yeah is the the the labor market while
00:08:25 yeah is the the the labor market while

00:08:26 yeah is the the the labor market while everyone says that unemployment is super
00:08:28 everyone says that unemployment is super

00:08:28 everyone says that unemployment is super low and all the rest of this if you're
00:08:31 low and all the rest of this if you're

00:08:31 low and all the rest of this if you're the one that's unemployed unemployment
00:08:32 the one that's unemployed unemployment

00:08:32 the one that's unemployed unemployment is a hundred percent it's not three
00:08:34 is a hundred percent it's not three

00:08:34 is a hundred percent it's not three point whatever percent the number is
00:08:36 point whatever percent the number is

00:08:36 point whatever percent the number is here in San Antonio if you're the one
00:08:37 here in San Antonio if you're the one

00:08:37 here in San Antonio if you're the one that's unemployed it's a hundred percent
00:08:38 that's unemployed it's a hundred percent

00:08:38 that's unemployed it's a hundred percent unemployed it and the the timing in the
00:08:41 unemployed it and the the timing in the

00:08:41 unemployed it and the the timing in the the tech world is it's not super
00:08:43 the tech world is it's not super

00:08:44 the tech world is it's not super efficient to go in to let go try to find
00:08:46 efficient to go in to let go try to find

00:08:46 efficient to go in to let go try to find all these things on your own too
00:08:48 all these things on your own too

00:08:48 all these things on your own too they've put a resume up and indeed or
00:08:49 they've put a resume up and indeed or

00:08:49 they've put a resume up and indeed or say put on LinkedIn the ear looking in
00:08:52 say put on LinkedIn the ear looking in

00:08:52 say put on LinkedIn the ear looking in an ideal world right now that probably
00:08:55 an ideal world right now that probably

00:08:55 an ideal world right now that probably takes two to four weeks for an
00:08:58 takes two to four weeks for an

00:08:58 takes two to four weeks for an entry-level
00:08:58 entry-level

00:08:58 entry-level employee and four to eight weeks for a
00:09:01 employee and four to eight weeks for a

00:09:01 employee and four to eight weeks for a mid-level employee and I mean maybe
00:09:02 mid-level employee and I mean maybe

00:09:02 mid-level employee and I mean maybe three to six months for a senior or an
00:09:04 three to six months for a senior or an

00:09:04 three to six months for a senior or an executive role from the time that you
00:09:07 executive role from the time that you

00:09:07 executive role from the time that you start a search until the time that you
00:09:08 start a search until the time that you

00:09:08 start a search until the time that you get hired so you're a hundred percent
00:09:10 get hired so you're a hundred percent

00:09:10 get hired so you're a hundred percent unemployed for that whole time if it's
00:09:13 unemployed for that whole time if it's

00:09:13 unemployed for that whole time if it's just you and and I think the the labor
00:09:16 just you and and I think the the labor

00:09:16 just you and and I think the the labor market while some of these online tools
00:09:19 market while some of these online tools

00:09:19 market while some of these online tools have made things better than walking
00:09:21 have made things better than walking

00:09:21 have made things better than walking around handing out paper resumes or
00:09:22 around handing out paper resumes or

00:09:22 around handing out paper resumes or writing letters to people I mean it
00:09:24 writing letters to people I mean it

00:09:24 writing letters to people I mean it still doesn't feel like something with
00:09:26 still doesn't feel like something with

00:09:26 still doesn't feel like something with it is just super clean super efficient
00:09:29 it is just super clean super efficient

00:09:29 it is just super clean super efficient there's not great discovery cuz a lot of
00:09:32 there's not great discovery cuz a lot of

00:09:32 there's not great discovery cuz a lot of people don't even post a job because
00:09:34 people don't even post a job because

00:09:34 people don't even post a job because they're just like I'm never gonna get a
00:09:35 they're just like I'm never gonna get a

00:09:35 they're just like I'm never gonna get a qualified candidate so why do I even
00:09:36 qualified candidate so why do I even

00:09:36 qualified candidate so why do I even list it right yeah exactly yeah so all
00:09:39 list it right yeah exactly yeah so all

00:09:39 list it right yeah exactly yeah so all that is very true and so one of the
00:09:41 that is very true and so one of the

00:09:41 that is very true and so one of the initiatives that I'll be working on is
00:09:43 initiatives that I'll be working on is

00:09:43 initiatives that I'll be working on is creating a website that will be a sort
00:09:46 creating a website that will be a sort

00:09:46 creating a website that will be a sort of single point of all of the tech jobs
00:09:49 of single point of all of the tech jobs

00:09:49 of single point of all of the tech jobs that are available here in San Antonio
00:09:50 that are available here in San Antonio

00:09:50 that are available here in San Antonio by I've already had people ask me if
00:09:52 by I've already had people ask me if

00:09:52 by I've already had people ask me if that's something that you're working on
00:09:54 that's something that you're working on

00:09:54 that's something that you're working on well yes it's definitely it will happen
00:09:56 well yes it's definitely it will happen

00:09:56 well yes it's definitely it will happen it'll take a little labor of love and
00:09:59 it'll take a little labor of love and

00:09:59 it'll take a little labor of love and some time but as I'm talking to people
00:10:03 some time but as I'm talking to people

00:10:03 some time but as I'm talking to people who are just starting to think about new
00:10:04 who are just starting to think about new

00:10:04 who are just starting to think about new opportunities throwing ideas out there
00:10:07 opportunities throwing ideas out there

00:10:07 opportunities throwing ideas out there like have you looked at the companies
00:10:08 like have you looked at the companies

00:10:08 like have you looked at the companies that skill works have you checked out
00:10:09 that skill works have you checked out

00:10:09 that skill works have you checked out port of San Antonio and they're just
00:10:11 port of San Antonio and they're just

00:10:11 port of San Antonio and they're just yeah what sport what sport si yeah so if
00:10:15 yeah what sport what sport si yeah so if

00:10:15 yeah what sport what sport si yeah so if you want to learn a little bit more
00:10:16 you want to learn a little bit more

00:10:16 you want to learn a little bit more about that we've had Jim purse Baku as
00:10:19 about that we've had Jim purse Baku as

00:10:19 about that we've had Jim purse Baku as the interim CEO out there now he's been
00:10:20 the interim CEO out there now he's been

00:10:20 the interim CEO out there now he's been on the program in the past when he was
00:10:22 on the program in the past when he was

00:10:22 on the program in the past when he was heading up their business development
00:10:24 heading up their business development

00:10:24 heading up their business development function but yeah there's all sorts of
00:10:25 function but yeah there's all sorts of

00:10:25 function but yeah there's all sorts of tech things going on out at Port San
00:10:27 tech things going on out at Port San

00:10:27 tech things going on out at Port San Antonio you and I know about that maybe
00:10:29 Antonio you and I know about that maybe

00:10:29 Antonio you and I know about that maybe some of the folks in our listening
00:10:30 some of the folks in our listening

00:10:30 some of the folks in our listening audience know but if you go stand on a
00:10:32 audience know but if you go stand on a

00:10:32 audience know but if you go stand on a street corner in San Antonio and ask
00:10:34 street corner in San Antonio and ask

00:10:34 street corner in San Antonio and ask people what port si is they're like we
00:10:35 people what port si is they're like we

00:10:35 people what port si is they're like we don't have an ocean here why is the
00:10:37 don't have an ocean here why is the

00:10:37 don't have an ocean here why is the report yeah exactly exactly and so it's
00:10:41 report yeah exactly exactly and so it's

00:10:41 report yeah exactly exactly and so it's just yeah getting the word out there
00:10:42 just yeah getting the word out there

00:10:42 just yeah getting the word out there again to people who are here in San
00:10:44 again to people who are here in San

00:10:44 again to people who are here in San Antonio whether they're passively
00:10:46 Antonio whether they're passively

00:10:46 Antonio whether they're passively looking or maybe they are on the job
00:10:48 looking or maybe they are on the job

00:10:48 looking or maybe they are on the job market that's been I did I think just
00:10:52 market that's been I did I think just

00:10:52 market that's been I did I think just some easy wins that I've been able to
00:10:53 some easy wins that I've been able to

00:10:53 some easy wins that I've been able to have up front
00:10:54 have up front

00:10:54 have up front ya know yeah I mean there's gonna be
00:10:57 ya know yeah I mean there's gonna be

00:10:57 ya know yeah I mean there's gonna be more good work than you know you're
00:11:00 more good work than you know you're

00:11:00 more good work than you know you're gonna be able to get done as one person
00:11:03 gonna be able to get done as one person

00:11:03 gonna be able to get done as one person all on your own yeah so as you've been
00:11:05 all on your own yeah so as you've been

00:11:05 all on your own yeah so as you've been into this of tech block when they they
00:11:07 into this of tech block when they they

00:11:07 into this of tech block when they they brought you in they give you some goals
00:11:08 brought you in they give you some goals

00:11:08 brought you in they give you some goals for this first year like what is what a
00:11:10 for this first year like what is what a

00:11:10 for this first year like what is what a success look like for your
00:11:12 success look like for your

00:11:12 success look like for your all through this first year yeah good
00:11:14 all through this first year yeah good

00:11:14 all through this first year yeah good question you know one of the things of
00:11:16 question you know one of the things of

00:11:16 question you know one of the things of course like I mentioned is getting that
00:11:18 course like I mentioned is getting that

00:11:18 course like I mentioned is getting that website up and running on the backend
00:11:20 website up and running on the backend

00:11:20 website up and running on the backend creating a data management system where
00:11:23 creating a data management system where

00:11:23 creating a data management system where we'll be tracking all of the candidates
00:11:26 we'll be tracking all of the candidates

00:11:26 we'll be tracking all of the candidates that are here in San Antonio and maybe
00:11:28 that are here in San Antonio and maybe

00:11:28 that are here in San Antonio and maybe and even those that are potentially not
00:11:30 and even those that are potentially not

00:11:30 and even those that are potentially not in San Antonio but just looking for
00:11:32 in San Antonio but just looking for

00:11:32 in San Antonio but just looking for opportunities and open to our city I
00:11:35 opportunities and open to our city I

00:11:35 opportunities and open to our city I think that's kind of first and foremost
00:11:37 think that's kind of first and foremost

00:11:37 think that's kind of first and foremost right now it's just an Excel spreadsheet
00:11:40 right now it's just an Excel spreadsheet

00:11:40 right now it's just an Excel spreadsheet which we all know is not super efficient
00:11:43 which we all know is not super efficient

00:11:43 which we all know is not super efficient so hopefully here in the coming weeks
00:11:45 so hopefully here in the coming weeks

00:11:45 so hopefully here in the coming weeks I'll be selecting an applicant tracking
00:11:48 I'll be selecting an applicant tracking

00:11:48 I'll be selecting an applicant tracking system where I'll be able to keep track
00:11:49 system where I'll be able to keep track

00:11:49 system where I'll be able to keep track of everything and then be able to share
00:11:51 of everything and then be able to share

00:11:51 of everything and then be able to share that data with the county with economic
00:11:53 that data with the county with economic

00:11:53 that data with the county with economic development with SSA works those are all
00:11:56 development with SSA works those are all

00:11:56 development with SSA works those are all foundations that I'll be that I'll be
00:11:58 foundations that I'll be that I'll be

00:11:58 foundations that I'll be that I'll be partnering with and and so forth so
00:12:00 partnering with and and so forth so

00:12:00 partnering with and and so forth so that's one of the initial priorities
00:12:02 that's one of the initial priorities

00:12:02 that's one of the initial priorities that along with the with the website and
00:12:05 that along with the with the website and

00:12:05 that along with the with the website and then the other thing is really just
00:12:07 then the other thing is really just

00:12:07 then the other thing is really just getting out there and getting people to
00:12:09 getting out there and getting people to

00:12:09 getting out there and getting people to know about our program I'm super excited
00:12:11 know about our program I'm super excited

00:12:11 know about our program I'm super excited about the companies who have already
00:12:13 about the companies who have already

00:12:13 about the companies who have already reached out some of them are the larger
00:12:16 reached out some of them are the larger

00:12:16 reached out some of them are the larger the larger players here in San Antonio
00:12:17 the larger players here in San Antonio

00:12:17 the larger players here in San Antonio they're theirs they're having those same
00:12:20 they're theirs they're having those same

00:12:20 they're theirs they're having those same struggles even our startups are having
00:12:22 struggles even our startups are having

00:12:22 struggles even our startups are having so just getting out there getting people
00:12:25 so just getting out there getting people

00:12:25 so just getting out there getting people to know about the program networking as
00:12:28 to know about the program networking as

00:12:28 to know about the program networking as we all know is a big part of it so those
00:12:31 we all know is a big part of it so those

00:12:32 we all know is a big part of it so those are the some of the things initially
00:12:33 are the some of the things initially

00:12:33 are the some of the things initially anyway that I'll be prioritizing I know
00:12:35 anyway that I'll be prioritizing I know

00:12:35 anyway that I'll be prioritizing I know what USDA said they're gonna hire 1500
00:12:38 what USDA said they're gonna hire 1500

00:12:38 what USDA said they're gonna hire 1500 tech folks to work in an R&D center here
00:12:40 tech folks to work in an R&D center here

00:12:40 tech folks to work in an R&D center here that they're building out in downtown
00:12:41 that they're building out in downtown

00:12:41 that they're building out in downtown San Antonio away from their main
00:12:43 San Antonio away from their main

00:12:43 San Antonio away from their main headquarters even if you're as big as
00:12:46 headquarters even if you're as big as

00:12:46 headquarters even if you're as big as USAA when you say you're gonna hire
00:12:47 USAA when you say you're gonna hire

00:12:47 USAA when you say you're gonna hire 1,500 of anything you end up with the
00:12:49 1,500 of anything you end up with the

00:12:49 1,500 of anything you end up with the talent pipeline problem like that's just
00:12:51 talent pipeline problem like that's just

00:12:51 talent pipeline problem like that's just that's a lot of people to bring in and
00:12:53 that's a lot of people to bring in and

00:12:53 that's a lot of people to bring in and on board for sure
00:12:56 on board for sure

00:12:56 on board for sure so as as you look at this role and most
00:13:02 so as as you look at this role and most

00:13:02 so as as you look at this role and most the time you take a job somewhere in
00:13:04 the time you take a job somewhere in

00:13:04 the time you take a job somewhere in your life you're like oh there's another
00:13:05 your life you're like oh there's another

00:13:05 your life you're like oh there's another person doing this job whether it's at my
00:13:08 person doing this job whether it's at my

00:13:08 person doing this job whether it's at my company or at another company or in my
00:13:11 company or at another company or in my

00:13:11 company or at another company or in my city at another city so this job that
00:13:13 city at another city so this job that

00:13:14 city at another city so this job that you took as far as I know there was no
00:13:16 you took as far as I know there was no

00:13:16 you took as far as I know there was no job description for this job before I'm
00:13:18 job description for this job before I'm

00:13:18 job description for this job before I'm not aware of it existing anywhere else
00:13:21 not aware of it existing anywhere else

00:13:21 not aware of it existing anywhere else yeah yeah there is somewhat of a job
00:13:23 yeah yeah there is somewhat of a job

00:13:23 yeah yeah there is somewhat of a job description but it's
00:13:25 description but it's

00:13:25 description but it's still defining it as I go along and I
00:13:28 still defining it as I go along and I

00:13:28 still defining it as I go along and I think it can change as we continue to
00:13:32 think it can change as we continue to

00:13:32 think it can change as we continue to move along this path and and as I
00:13:34 move along this path and and as I

00:13:34 move along this path and and as I continue to get to get out there and
00:13:35 continue to get to get out there and

00:13:35 continue to get to get out there and understand the challenges the companies
00:13:37 understand the challenges the companies

00:13:37 understand the challenges the companies that are here in San Antonio of the
00:13:39 that are here in San Antonio of the

00:13:39 that are here in San Antonio of the talent that's here in San Antonio that's
00:13:42 talent that's here in San Antonio that's

00:13:42 talent that's here in San Antonio that's the exciting thing is that it's really
00:13:44 the exciting thing is that it's really

00:13:44 the exciting thing is that it's really not defined and we get to define it as
00:13:47 not defined and we get to define it as

00:13:47 not defined and we get to define it as as we go along some people might think
00:13:49 as we go along some people might think

00:13:49 as we go along some people might think that's a little scary but it's it's kind
00:13:51 that's a little scary but it's it's kind

00:13:51 that's a little scary but it's it's kind of fun yeah if you're gonna work in a
00:13:52 of fun yeah if you're gonna work in a

00:13:52 of fun yeah if you're gonna work in a start-up you've got to be comfortable
00:13:54 start-up you've got to be comfortable

00:13:54 start-up you've got to be comfortable some ambiguity no that's what I just
00:13:56 some ambiguity no that's what I just

00:13:56 some ambiguity no that's what I just heard her say and she's working in a
00:13:58 heard her say and she's working in a

00:13:58 heard her say and she's working in a start-up in a way because tech blocks
00:14:00 start-up in a way because tech blocks

00:14:00 start-up in a way because tech blocks been around for a few years now but it's
00:14:02 been around for a few years now but it's

00:14:02 been around for a few years now but it's a small staff lots of big ideas lots of
00:14:05 a small staff lots of big ideas lots of

00:14:05 a small staff lots of big ideas lots of big goals and then this is just one of
00:14:08 big goals and then this is just one of

00:14:08 big goals and then this is just one of the the newest ones is to make San
00:14:10 the the newest ones is to make San

00:14:10 the the newest ones is to make San Antonio the most efficient attacked
00:14:12 Antonio the most efficient attacked

00:14:12 Antonio the most efficient attacked labor market in the world there's a
00:14:14 labor market in the world there's a

00:14:14 labor market in the world there's a there's one for it that's not your goal
00:14:17 there's one for it that's not your goal

00:14:17 there's one for it that's not your goal for this year there'll be a multi-year
00:14:19 for this year there'll be a multi-year

00:14:19 for this year there'll be a multi-year goal Lou if you're listening who's one
00:14:22 goal Lou if you're listening who's one

00:14:22 goal Lou if you're listening who's one of the folks in the tech walk board you
00:14:23 of the folks in the tech walk board you

00:14:23 of the folks in the tech walk board you can't make her that goal this year
00:14:25 can't make her that goal this year

00:14:25 can't make her that goal this year you're listening to 1200 W AI this is
00:14:29 you're listening to 1200 W AI this is

00:14:29 you're listening to 1200 W AI this is cyber talk radio and we're talking about
00:14:31 cyber talk radio and we're talking about

00:14:31 cyber talk radio and we're talking about tech talent pipeline in San Antonio this
00:14:33 tech talent pipeline in San Antonio this

00:14:33 tech talent pipeline in San Antonio this week with a unique role and a unique
00:14:37 week with a unique role and a unique

00:14:37 week with a unique role and a unique person the chief talent recruitment
00:14:39 person the chief talent recruitment

00:14:39 person the chief talent recruitment officer I think this is the only kind of
00:14:41 officer I think this is the only kind of

00:14:41 officer I think this is the only kind of organization in this anywhere that has
00:14:44 organization in this anywhere that has

00:14:44 organization in this anywhere that has this type of role for a city helping
00:14:46 this type of role for a city helping

00:14:46 this type of role for a city helping build a tech district out so if you just
00:14:49 build a tech district out so if you just

00:14:49 build a tech district out so if you just turned on your radio right now you can
00:14:51 turned on your radio right now you can

00:14:51 turned on your radio right now you can listen to the rebroadcast and replay of
00:14:53 listen to the rebroadcast and replay of

00:14:53 listen to the rebroadcast and replay of this it'll be up on our website at WWF
00:14:56 this it'll be up on our website at WWF

00:14:56 this it'll be up on our website at WWF reading on Tuesday June 26th you can
00:14:59 reading on Tuesday June 26th you can

00:14:59 reading on Tuesday June 26th you can also stream it on iTunes or pocket casts
00:15:01 also stream it on iTunes or pocket casts

00:15:02 also stream it on iTunes or pocket casts or whatever else you choose on your your
00:15:03 or whatever else you choose on your your

00:15:03 or whatever else you choose on your your Android device we talked a little bit
00:15:06 Android device we talked a little bit

00:15:06 Android device we talked a little bit about Janine's background and how she
00:15:07 about Janine's background and how she

00:15:07 about Janine's background and how she ended up here and a relocation herself
00:15:09 ended up here and a relocation herself

00:15:09 ended up here and a relocation herself from Florida and now she's helping other
00:15:13 from Florida and now she's helping other

00:15:13 from Florida and now she's helping other folks go along that same journey and
00:15:16 folks go along that same journey and

00:15:16 folks go along that same journey and help in the startups that are booming in
00:15:17 help in the startups that are booming in

00:15:17 help in the startups that are booming in our tech district here and part of the
00:15:19 our tech district here and part of the

00:15:19 our tech district here and part of the tech block ecosystem maybe even some of
00:15:22 tech block ecosystem maybe even some of

00:15:22 tech block ecosystem maybe even some of our big employers that are also in that
00:15:23 our big employers that are also in that

00:15:23 our big employers that are also in that ecosystem and a valued partners
00:15:25 ecosystem and a valued partners

00:15:25 ecosystem and a valued partners participating and helping a tech block
00:15:27 participating and helping a tech block

00:15:27 participating and helping a tech block and the the tech ecosystem here in
00:15:30 and the the tech ecosystem here in

00:15:30 and the the tech ecosystem here in downtown grow so as we talked a little
00:15:33 downtown grow so as we talked a little

00:15:33 downtown grow so as we talked a little bit about challenges but we didn't talk
00:15:35 bit about challenges but we didn't talk

00:15:35 bit about challenges but we didn't talk a bunch about progress yet and so in my
00:15:37 a bunch about progress yet and so in my

00:15:37 a bunch about progress yet and so in my history I worked for SBC
00:15:39 history I worked for SBC

00:15:39 history I worked for SBC and then we were AT&T for a little bit
00:15:41 and then we were AT&T for a little bit

00:15:41 and then we were AT&T for a little bit and then we moved out of all all the
00:15:43 and then we moved out of all all the

00:15:43 and then we moved out of all all the buildings downtown here almost there's
00:15:45 buildings downtown here almost there's

00:15:45 buildings downtown here almost there's still a couple of buildings that have
00:15:47 still a couple of buildings that have

00:15:47 still a couple of buildings that have some AT&T folks in them now but like the
00:15:49 some AT&T folks in them now but like the

00:15:49 some AT&T folks in them now but like the two the big towers are getting
00:15:51 two the big towers are getting

00:15:51 two the big towers are getting redeveloped by CPS and and there was
00:15:53 redeveloped by CPS and and there was

00:15:53 redeveloped by CPS and and there was this kind of exodus for a while and some
00:15:55 this kind of exodus for a while and some

00:15:55 this kind of exodus for a while and some of the progress I'm seeing now is we've
00:15:58 of the progress I'm seeing now is we've

00:15:58 of the progress I'm seeing now is we've got some critical mass down here in San
00:16:01 got some critical mass down here in San

00:16:01 got some critical mass down here in San in downtown San Antonio the buildings
00:16:04 in downtown San Antonio the buildings

00:16:04 in downtown San Antonio the buildings that used to have AT&T folks in them are
00:16:05 that used to have AT&T folks in them are

00:16:06 that used to have AT&T folks in them are either turning into CPS headquarters are
00:16:08 either turning into CPS headquarters are

00:16:08 either turning into CPS headquarters are there refilled with other companies and
00:16:11 there refilled with other companies and

00:16:11 there refilled with other companies and other tech roles now because when I
00:16:12 other tech roles now because when I

00:16:12 other tech roles now because when I think about my time back there working
00:16:15 think about my time back there working

00:16:15 think about my time back there working for them we have a lot of technologists
00:16:16 for them we have a lot of technologists

00:16:16 for them we have a lot of technologists but a lot of business operations and you
00:16:18 but a lot of business operations and you

00:16:18 but a lot of business operations and you see maybe a USAA down here you see h-e-b
00:16:21 see maybe a USAA down here you see h-e-b

00:16:21 see maybe a USAA down here you see h-e-b hiring many more tech employees than
00:16:24 hiring many more tech employees than

00:16:24 hiring many more tech employees than they had a decade ago you see companies
00:16:27 they had a decade ago you see companies

00:16:27 they had a decade ago you see companies capture our X and Mail gun and a whole
00:16:30 capture our X and Mail gun and a whole

00:16:30 capture our X and Mail gun and a whole bunch of others that are in this 50 plus
00:16:33 bunch of others that are in this 50 plus

00:16:33 bunch of others that are in this 50 plus employee range and you start adding all
00:16:34 employee range and you start adding all

00:16:34 employee range and you start adding all those together and I think we likely
00:16:36 those together and I think we likely

00:16:36 those together and I think we likely have more technology folks in downtown
00:16:39 have more technology folks in downtown

00:16:39 have more technology folks in downtown San Antonio now than we did when when
00:16:42 San Antonio now than we did when when

00:16:42 San Antonio now than we did when when eighteen these headquarters here they
00:16:43 eighteen these headquarters here they

00:16:43 eighteen these headquarters here they still have the folks over at 1010 North
00:16:45 still have the folks over at 1010 North

00:16:45 still have the folks over at 1010 North st. Mary's it's a big building it's
00:16:46 st. Mary's it's a big building it's

00:16:46 st. Mary's it's a big building it's still full of folks and full of a lot of
00:16:49 still full of folks and full of a lot of

00:16:49 still full of folks and full of a lot of network planning and engineering and
00:16:50 network planning and engineering and

00:16:50 network planning and engineering and other things for them but I mean that's
00:16:53 other things for them but I mean that's

00:16:53 other things for them but I mean that's oh I see some progress being made that
00:16:55 oh I see some progress being made that

00:16:55 oh I see some progress being made that we've we kind of went down on this
00:16:57 we've we kind of went down on this

00:16:57 we've we kind of went down on this trough for a while when they they moved
00:16:58 trough for a while when they they moved

00:16:58 trough for a while when they they moved up to Dallas but now that's filled back
00:17:01 up to Dallas but now that's filled back

00:17:01 up to Dallas but now that's filled back in what sort of areas are you seeing
00:17:03 in what sort of areas are you seeing

00:17:03 in what sort of areas are you seeing progress in yeah great question so uh
00:17:06 progress in yeah great question so uh

00:17:06 progress in yeah great question so uh you know one of the things I wanted to
00:17:08 you know one of the things I wanted to

00:17:08 you know one of the things I wanted to touch on and I think I mentioned code up
00:17:10 touch on and I think I mentioned code up

00:17:10 touch on and I think I mentioned code up and open cloud Academy a little bit
00:17:13 and open cloud Academy a little bit

00:17:13 and open cloud Academy a little bit earlier in the conversation so and
00:17:15 earlier in the conversation so and

00:17:15 earlier in the conversation so and they're doing a phenomenal job on their
00:17:16 they're doing a phenomenal job on their

00:17:16 they're doing a phenomenal job on their training programs and and getting talent
00:17:19 training programs and and getting talent

00:17:19 training programs and and getting talent ready to be be here in San Antonio for
00:17:22 ready to be be here in San Antonio for

00:17:22 ready to be be here in San Antonio for all of these open job opportunities so I
00:17:25 all of these open job opportunities so I

00:17:25 all of these open job opportunities so I plan to continue to partner with them on
00:17:27 plan to continue to partner with them on

00:17:27 plan to continue to partner with them on how I can help in any way really help
00:17:30 how I can help in any way really help

00:17:30 how I can help in any way really help their graduates find opportunities and
00:17:31 their graduates find opportunities and

00:17:31 their graduates find opportunities and I'm already starting to do that so I
00:17:34 I'm already starting to do that so I

00:17:34 I'm already starting to do that so I think that's one of the areas where
00:17:35 think that's one of the areas where

00:17:35 think that's one of the areas where we're making some progress there because
00:17:38 we're making some progress there because

00:17:38 we're making some progress there because it all goes back to talent right
00:17:39 it all goes back to talent right

00:17:39 it all goes back to talent right companies can continue to come to San
00:17:41 companies can continue to come to San

00:17:42 companies can continue to come to San Antonio they can continue to open up
00:17:44 Antonio they can continue to open up

00:17:44 Antonio they can continue to open up headquarters here downtown but we need
00:17:46 headquarters here downtown but we need

00:17:46 headquarters here downtown but we need the talent to fill to fill those jobs
00:17:48 the talent to fill to fill those jobs

00:17:48 the talent to fill to fill those jobs and so code up open cloud Academy great
00:17:52 and so code up open cloud Academy great

00:17:52 and so code up open cloud Academy great programs
00:17:53 programs

00:17:53 programs working really closely with them so I
00:17:55 working really closely with them so I

00:17:55 working really closely with them so I think we're making a lot of progress
00:17:56 think we're making a lot of progress

00:17:56 think we're making a lot of progress there and then secondly I think this
00:17:58 there and then secondly I think this

00:17:58 there and then secondly I think this city is starting to get the recognition
00:18:00 city is starting to get the recognition

00:18:00 city is starting to get the recognition that it deserves
00:18:02 that it deserves

00:18:02 that it deserves I'm not sure if any of you have seen the
00:18:04 I'm not sure if any of you have seen the

00:18:04 I'm not sure if any of you have seen the article that just came out
00:18:05 article that just came out

00:18:05 article that just came out San Antonio listed as one of the top 15
00:18:07 San Antonio listed as one of the top 15

00:18:07 San Antonio listed as one of the top 15 places to live I think it was a report
00:18:10 places to live I think it was a report

00:18:10 places to live I think it was a report by u.s. news so that's really exciting
00:18:13 by u.s. news so that's really exciting

00:18:13 by u.s. news so that's really exciting and it all goes back to some of the
00:18:16 and it all goes back to some of the

00:18:16 and it all goes back to some of the stuff that Tech Block in general is
00:18:17 stuff that Tech Block in general is

00:18:17 stuff that Tech Block in general is working on what economic developments
00:18:19 working on what economic developments

00:18:19 working on what economic developments working on we want San Antonio to be the
00:18:21 working on we want San Antonio to be the

00:18:21 working on we want San Antonio to be the city of choice and so I think we're
00:18:23 city of choice and so I think we're

00:18:23 city of choice and so I think we're really making progress there yeah it's a
00:18:26 really making progress there yeah it's a

00:18:26 really making progress there yeah it's a it's an interesting one on the the kind
00:18:28 it's an interesting one on the the kind

00:18:28 it's an interesting one on the the kind of job opportunities career
00:18:30 of job opportunities career

00:18:30 of job opportunities career opportunities quality of life and and
00:18:33 opportunities quality of life and and

00:18:33 opportunities quality of life and and where and how this this next generation
00:18:35 where and how this this next generation

00:18:35 where and how this this next generation of tech workers are they going to be
00:18:38 of tech workers are they going to be

00:18:38 of tech workers are they going to be willing to kind of just bunker down for
00:18:41 willing to kind of just bunker down for

00:18:41 willing to kind of just bunker down for the first decade of their career and do
00:18:44 the first decade of their career and do

00:18:44 the first decade of their career and do nothing but work are they going to want
00:18:45 nothing but work are they going to want

00:18:45 nothing but work are they going to want to be able to afford to go on vacation
00:18:47 to be able to afford to go on vacation

00:18:47 to be able to afford to go on vacation or they gonna be able to afford to go
00:18:48 or they gonna be able to afford to go

00:18:48 or they gonna be able to afford to go out on the weekend and do things with
00:18:50 out on the weekend and do things with

00:18:50 out on the weekend and do things with their friends because in especially for
00:18:52 their friends because in especially for

00:18:52 their friends because in especially for the first couple of years if you you go
00:18:53 the first couple of years if you you go

00:18:53 the first couple of years if you you go to a New York or San Francisco you're
00:18:55 to a New York or San Francisco you're

00:18:55 to a New York or San Francisco you're pretty much living in your studio or you
00:19:00 pretty much living in your studio or you

00:19:00 pretty much living in your studio or you have a roommate and you're not going on
00:19:03 have a roommate and you're not going on

00:19:03 have a roommate and you're not going on vacation very much unless your parents
00:19:05 vacation very much unless your parents

00:19:05 vacation very much unless your parents are paying for vacations still cuz
00:19:06 are paying for vacations still cuz

00:19:06 are paying for vacations still cuz you're barely covering rent you're
00:19:07 you're barely covering rent you're

00:19:07 you're barely covering rent you're barely paying your bills
00:19:08 barely paying your bills

00:19:08 barely paying your bills whereas I feels like in San Antonio if
00:19:11 whereas I feels like in San Antonio if

00:19:11 whereas I feels like in San Antonio if you were able come here and this is one
00:19:13 you were able come here and this is one

00:19:13 you were able come here and this is one of the other things I see with a little
00:19:14 of the other things I see with a little

00:19:14 of the other things I see with a little mini of the college kids is you might
00:19:16 mini of the college kids is you might

00:19:16 mini of the college kids is you might get a job offer in San Antonio for 50 or
00:19:18 get a job offer in San Antonio for 50 or

00:19:18 get a job offer in San Antonio for 50 or $55,000 new you're like well I'm getting
00:19:20 $55,000 new you're like well I'm getting

00:19:20 $55,000 new you're like well I'm getting an $80,000 job offer in San Francisco
00:19:22 an $80,000 job offer in San Francisco

00:19:22 an $80,000 job offer in San Francisco I'm taking the $80,000 but it doesn't
00:19:25 I'm taking the $80,000 but it doesn't

00:19:25 I'm taking the $80,000 but it doesn't work out that way like your quality of
00:19:26 work out that way like your quality of

00:19:26 work out that way like your quality of life is much better here at 50 or 55
00:19:28 life is much better here at 50 or 55

00:19:28 life is much better here at 50 or 55 than it would be at 80 in San Francisco
00:19:30 than it would be at 80 in San Francisco

00:19:30 than it would be at 80 in San Francisco in New York right and it's interesting i
00:19:34 in New York right and it's interesting i

00:19:34 in New York right and it's interesting i working at Rackspace and recruiting
00:19:37 working at Rackspace and recruiting

00:19:37 working at Rackspace and recruiting executive-level for the most part we we
00:19:39 executive-level for the most part we we

00:19:39 executive-level for the most part we we had to relocate everybody from all
00:19:41 had to relocate everybody from all

00:19:41 had to relocate everybody from all different areas of the country
00:19:42 different areas of the country

00:19:42 different areas of the country specifically San Francisco and you know
00:19:47 specifically San Francisco and you know

00:19:47 specifically San Francisco and you know having that conversation and getting
00:19:49 having that conversation and getting

00:19:49 having that conversation and getting them to understand and at that level I
00:19:51 them to understand and at that level I

00:19:51 them to understand and at that level I think they get it to a certain extent
00:19:53 think they get it to a certain extent

00:19:53 think they get it to a certain extent but really gosh your money goes so much
00:19:56 but really gosh your money goes so much

00:19:56 but really gosh your money goes so much further here in San Antonio and like you
00:19:58 further here in San Antonio and like you

00:19:58 further here in San Antonio and like you mentioned the quality of life it David
00:20:01 mentioned the quality of life it David

00:20:01 mentioned the quality of life it David heard our CEO and I were talking about
00:20:04 heard our CEO and I were talking about

00:20:04 heard our CEO and I were talking about this the other day it's like I would
00:20:05 this the other day it's like I would

00:20:05 this the other day it's like I would rather live here
00:20:07 rather live here

00:20:07 rather live here and and be able to take those vacations
00:20:09 and and be able to take those vacations

00:20:09 and and be able to take those vacations and be able to do things that I wouldn't
00:20:11 and be able to do things that I wouldn't

00:20:11 and be able to do things that I wouldn't traditionally do if maybe I lived in San
00:20:13 traditionally do if maybe I lived in San

00:20:13 traditionally do if maybe I lived in San Francisco and all of my money was going
00:20:15 Francisco and all of my money was going

00:20:15 Francisco and all of my money was going towards living costs
00:20:17 towards living costs

00:20:17 towards living costs yeah I mean you can you can buy a home
00:20:20 yeah I mean you can you can buy a home

00:20:20 yeah I mean you can you can buy a home in San Antonio for those listening
00:20:22 in San Antonio for those listening

00:20:22 in San Antonio for those listening outside the area nice home in a nice
00:20:26 outside the area nice home in a nice

00:20:26 outside the area nice home in a nice neighborhood with good schools for a
00:20:28 neighborhood with good schools for a

00:20:28 neighborhood with good schools for a hundred and twenty dollars per square
00:20:30 hundred and twenty dollars per square

00:20:30 hundred and twenty dollars per square foot so 2,000 square foot house two
00:20:33 foot so 2,000 square foot house two

00:20:33 foot so 2,000 square foot house two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
00:20:35 hundred and fifty thousand dollars

00:20:35 hundred and fifty thousand dollars two-car garage yeah white picket fence
00:20:38 two-car garage yeah white picket fence

00:20:38 two-car garage yeah white picket fence all of those things if you go into the
00:20:40 all of those things if you go into the

00:20:40 all of those things if you go into the some of the most expensive areas of San
00:20:42 some of the most expensive areas of San

00:20:42 some of the most expensive areas of San Antonio 300 maybe 400 dollars a square
00:20:45 Antonio 300 maybe 400 dollars a square

00:20:45 Antonio 300 maybe 400 dollars a square foot but at that point you're talking to
00:20:47 foot but at that point you're talking to

00:20:47 foot but at that point you're talking to per crazy custom home and all the rest
00:20:49 per crazy custom home and all the rest

00:20:49 per crazy custom home and all the rest of this where I was reading an article
00:20:51 of this where I was reading an article

00:20:51 of this where I was reading an article this last week the median home price in
00:20:53 this last week the median home price in

00:20:53 this last week the median home price in Palo Alto now is 3.4 million dollars and
00:20:57 Palo Alto now is 3.4 million dollars and

00:20:57 Palo Alto now is 3.4 million dollars and for 3.4 million dollars you can buy your
00:20:59 for 3.4 million dollars you can buy your

00:20:59 for 3.4 million dollars you can buy your own block in San Antonio yeah you can
00:21:01 own block in San Antonio yeah you can

00:21:01 own block in San Antonio yeah you can yes Facebook's gonna have to pay it
00:21:02 yes Facebook's gonna have to pay it

00:21:02 yes Facebook's gonna have to pay it quite a bit if you want to be able to
00:21:04 quite a bit if you want to be able to

00:21:04 quite a bit if you want to be able to buy the median home in in that area near
00:21:07 buy the median home in in that area near

00:21:07 buy the median home in in that area near their office Google all of that down
00:21:10 their office Google all of that down

00:21:10 their office Google all of that down there and there's been a lot of money
00:21:12 there and there's been a lot of money

00:21:12 there and there's been a lot of money which has created that they've also done
00:21:14 which has created that they've also done

00:21:14 which has created that they've also done a lot of things to themselves in that
00:21:15 a lot of things to themselves in that

00:21:15 a lot of things to themselves in that area with the precluding construction of
00:21:18 area with the precluding construction of

00:21:18 area with the precluding construction of new homes we talked some people
00:21:20 new homes we talked some people

00:21:20 new homes we talked some people complained about San Antonio we're
00:21:22 complained about San Antonio we're

00:21:22 complained about San Antonio we're working on home for up we're working on
00:21:24 working on home for up we're working on

00:21:24 working on home for up we're working on housing affordability here is a city
00:21:26 housing affordability here is a city

00:21:26 housing affordability here is a city right now
00:21:27 right now

00:21:27 right now and I think this is one of the things I
00:21:29 and I think this is one of the things I

00:21:29 and I think this is one of the things I love about San Antonio is the people are
00:21:32 love about San Antonio is the people are

00:21:32 love about San Antonio is the people are worried that a $250,000 people can't
00:21:34 worried that a $250,000 people can't

00:21:34 worried that a $250,000 people can't afford a home and I think everyone in
00:21:36 afford a home and I think everyone in

00:21:36 afford a home and I think everyone in California would just look at that and
00:21:38 California would just look at that and

00:21:38 California would just look at that and go I wish homes for $250,000 definitely
00:21:41 go I wish homes for $250,000 definitely

00:21:41 go I wish homes for $250,000 definitely and that's one of the things we have
00:21:42 and that's one of the things we have

00:21:42 and that's one of the things we have going for us it's it's it's you know the
00:21:45 going for us it's it's it's you know the

00:21:45 going for us it's it's it's you know the quality of life that the cost of living
00:21:48 quality of life that the cost of living

00:21:48 quality of life that the cost of living we have great schools all of those
00:21:50 we have great schools all of those

00:21:50 we have great schools all of those things are important to people and those
00:21:53 things are important to people and those

00:21:53 things are important to people and those are the selling factors for for coming
00:21:54 are the selling factors for for coming

00:21:54 are the selling factors for for coming here to San Antonio and we're continuing
00:21:56 here to San Antonio and we're continuing

00:21:56 here to San Antonio and we're continuing to grow look at all the development
00:21:58 to grow look at all the development

00:21:58 to grow look at all the development that's gone on at the Pearl look what
00:21:59 that's gone on at the Pearl look what

00:21:59 that's gone on at the Pearl look what we're doing downtown I mean San Antonio
00:22:01 we're doing downtown I mean San Antonio

00:22:01 we're doing downtown I mean San Antonio is becoming a destination city not just
00:22:04 is becoming a destination city not just

00:22:04 is becoming a destination city not just to come see the Riverwalk but to
00:22:06 to come see the Riverwalk but to

00:22:06 to come see the Riverwalk but to actually live here ya know I mean this I
00:22:08 actually live here ya know I mean this I

00:22:08 actually live here ya know I mean this I get out and eat on a fair amount at new
00:22:12 get out and eat on a fair amount at new

00:22:12 get out and eat on a fair amount at new restaurants and places and I feel like
00:22:14 restaurants and places and I feel like

00:22:14 restaurants and places and I feel like that things open up here more quickly
00:22:16 that things open up here more quickly

00:22:16 that things open up here more quickly than I can actually go to all of them
00:22:18 than I can actually go to all of them

00:22:18 than I can actually go to all of them now oh yeah absolutely I have
00:22:20 now oh yeah absolutely I have

00:22:21 now oh yeah absolutely I have my husband and I have a list of places
00:22:23 my husband and I have a list of places

00:22:23 my husband and I have a list of places we've still yet to go to and I'm
00:22:24 we've still yet to go to and I'm

00:22:24 we've still yet to go to and I'm actually embarrassed when people say hey
00:22:26 actually embarrassed when people say hey

00:22:26 actually embarrassed when people say hey have you been to whatever restaurant no
00:22:29 have you been to whatever restaurant no

00:22:29 have you been to whatever restaurant no haven't gotten there yet
00:22:30 haven't gotten there yet

00:22:30 haven't gotten there yet yeah and some of that came about so that
00:22:32 yeah and some of that came about so that

00:22:32 yeah and some of that came about so that the Pearl development that didn't II
00:22:34 the Pearl development that didn't II

00:22:34 the Pearl development that didn't II just mentioned is a redevelopment of an
00:22:37 just mentioned is a redevelopment of an

00:22:37 just mentioned is a redevelopment of an abandoned brewery it's probably if not
00:22:39 abandoned brewery it's probably if not

00:22:39 abandoned brewery it's probably if not the number one it's in the top five of
00:22:42 the number one it's in the top five of

00:22:42 the number one it's in the top five of urban redevelopment projects anywhere in
00:22:44 urban redevelopment projects anywhere in

00:22:44 urban redevelopment projects anywhere in the world and it was centered around the
00:22:46 the world and it was centered around the

00:22:46 the world and it was centered around the The Culinary Institute of America
00:22:48 The Culinary Institute of America

00:22:48 The Culinary Institute of America opened up a third location so they have
00:22:50 opened up a third location so they have

00:22:50 opened up a third location so they have New York San Francisco and San Antonio
00:22:52 New York San Francisco and San Antonio

00:22:52 New York San Francisco and San Antonio and through that as being here a decade
00:22:56 and through that as being here a decade

00:22:56 and through that as being here a decade now has turned out a ton of chefs and
00:22:58 now has turned out a ton of chefs and

00:22:58 now has turned out a ton of chefs and those folks are graduating and they may
00:23:01 those folks are graduating and they may

00:23:01 those folks are graduating and they may go work for someone else but in San
00:23:03 go work for someone else but in San

00:23:03 go work for someone else but in San Antonio they save up 50 grand or a
00:23:06 Antonio they save up 50 grand or a

00:23:06 Antonio they save up 50 grand or a hundred grand and they or if they get an
00:23:08 hundred grand and they or if they get an

00:23:08 hundred grand and they or if they get an investor to give that type of money
00:23:10 investor to give that type of money

00:23:10 investor to give that type of money they can open up and start their own
00:23:11 they can open up and start their own

00:23:11 they can open up and start their own restaurant we're in New York in San
00:23:13 restaurant we're in New York in San

00:23:13 restaurant we're in New York in San Francisco just add a zero or add two
00:23:15 Francisco just add a zero or add two

00:23:15 Francisco just add a zero or add two zeros to that in order to open up your
00:23:17 zeros to that in order to open up your

00:23:17 zeros to that in order to open up your own restaurant
00:23:17 own restaurant

00:23:17 own restaurant exactly yeah so it's it's really
00:23:20 exactly yeah so it's it's really

00:23:20 exactly yeah so it's it's really transformed what's been going on here
00:23:23 transformed what's been going on here

00:23:23 transformed what's been going on here from our culinary scene and there was
00:23:25 from our culinary scene and there was

00:23:25 from our culinary scene and there was always been some because there have been
00:23:26 always been some because there have been

00:23:26 always been some because there have been tourism and some just great restaurants
00:23:30 tourism and some just great restaurants

00:23:30 tourism and some just great restaurants around but just the order in magnitude
00:23:33 around but just the order in magnitude

00:23:33 around but just the order in magnitude us has absolutely changed things and I
00:23:36 us has absolutely changed things and I

00:23:36 us has absolutely changed things and I think tech walk is starting to have that
00:23:38 think tech walk is starting to have that

00:23:38 think tech walk is starting to have that impact on the technology scene we've had
00:23:40 impact on the technology scene we've had

00:23:40 impact on the technology scene we've had tech companies here in San Antonio going
00:23:42 tech companies here in San Antonio going

00:23:42 tech companies here in San Antonio going all the way back to the datapoint
00:23:44 all the way back to the datapoint

00:23:44 all the way back to the datapoint corporation that invented the 808 e4
00:23:46 corporation that invented the 808 e4

00:23:46 corporation that invented the 808 e4 chip and I think they licensed the
00:23:48 chip and I think they licensed the

00:23:48 chip and I think they licensed the schema out to Intel and that ended up
00:23:51 schema out to Intel and that ended up

00:23:51 schema out to Intel and that ended up changing things a little bit but in you
00:23:53 changing things a little bit but in you

00:23:53 changing things a little bit but in you go forward to one of Cisco's earliest
00:23:55 go forward to one of Cisco's earliest

00:23:55 go forward to one of Cisco's earliest acquisitions was headquartered here
00:23:57 acquisitions was headquartered here

00:23:57 acquisitions was headquartered here David I think actually worked the tech
00:23:59 David I think actually worked the tech

00:23:59 David I think actually worked the tech walk CEO I think actually worked for the
00:24:01 walk CEO I think actually worked for the

00:24:01 walk CEO I think actually worked for the wheel group they got acquired by Cisco
00:24:03 wheel group they got acquired by Cisco

00:24:03 wheel group they got acquired by Cisco back in the early 1990s and other
00:24:07 back in the early 1990s and other

00:24:07 back in the early 1990s and other companies Global scape is a small and
00:24:10 companies Global scape is a small and

00:24:10 companies Global scape is a small and the grand scheme of publicly traded
00:24:11 the grand scheme of publicly traded

00:24:11 the grand scheme of publicly traded companies but a small publicly traded
00:24:13 companies but a small publicly traded

00:24:13 companies but a small publicly traded company that's been here for 20 years
00:24:14 company that's been here for 20 years

00:24:14 company that's been here for 20 years and I'm listing a whole bunch of them
00:24:16 and I'm listing a whole bunch of them

00:24:16 and I'm listing a whole bunch of them that we we haven't had a critical mass
00:24:20 that we we haven't had a critical mass

00:24:20 that we we haven't had a critical mass those folks because San Antonio is the
00:24:23 those folks because San Antonio is the

00:24:23 those folks because San Antonio is the size of the state of Rhode Island for
00:24:25 size of the state of Rhode Island for

00:24:25 size of the state of Rhode Island for for those if you've just lived here your
00:24:27 for those if you've just lived here your

00:24:27 for those if you've just lived here your whole life
00:24:27 whole life

00:24:27 whole life ya bear County and San Antonio is the
00:24:30 ya bear County and San Antonio is the

00:24:30 ya bear County and San Antonio is the size of the whole state so we're gonna
00:24:34 size of the whole state so we're gonna

00:24:34 size of the whole state so we're gonna slide into a break for a news traffic
00:24:37 slide into a break for a news traffic

00:24:37 slide into a break for a news traffic and weather update here at the bottom of
00:24:38 and weather update here at the bottom of

00:24:38 and weather update here at the bottom of the hour you're listening to cyber talk
00:24:39 the hour you're listening to cyber talk

00:24:39 the hour you're listening to cyber talk radio and we get back then we get since
00:24:42 radio and we get back then we get since

00:24:42 radio and we get back then we get since you need to give some tips if you're
00:24:43 you need to give some tips if you're

00:24:43 you need to give some tips if you're looking for a tech job what should you
00:24:45 looking for a tech job what should you

00:24:45 looking for a tech job what should you do for your resume where should you go
00:24:46 do for your resume where should you go

00:24:46 do for your resume where should you go to find that dream job in San Antonio
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00:25:05
welcome back to cyber talk radio
00:25:08 welcome back to cyber talk radio

00:25:08 welcome back to cyber talk radio I'm your host Bret Pyatt a 20-year
00:25:10 I'm your host Bret Pyatt a 20-year

00:25:10 I'm your host Bret Pyatt a 20-year internet security veteran I'm joined
00:25:11 internet security veteran I'm joined

00:25:11 internet security veteran I'm joined this week by Jeanine while the chief
00:25:13 this week by Jeanine while the chief

00:25:13 this week by Jeanine while the chief talent and recruitment officer for tech
00:25:16 talent and recruitment officer for tech

00:25:16 talent and recruitment officer for tech block a tech advocacy organization here
00:25:19 block a tech advocacy organization here

00:25:19 block a tech advocacy organization here in San Antonio helping us build out our
00:25:20 in San Antonio helping us build out our

00:25:20 in San Antonio helping us build out our tech district downtown and really all
00:25:23 tech district downtown and really all

00:25:23 tech district downtown and really all across the city let up starting in the
00:25:26 across the city let up starting in the

00:25:26 across the city let up starting in the building geekdom is in if you haven't
00:25:28 building geekdom is in if you haven't

00:25:28 building geekdom is in if you haven't heard of geekdom just go on the internet
00:25:30 heard of geekdom just go on the internet

00:25:30 heard of geekdom just go on the internet look for geekdom all one word
00:25:31 look for geekdom all one word

00:25:31 look for geekdom all one word you'll find it your favorite search
00:25:33 you'll find it your favorite search

00:25:33 you'll find it your favorite search engine I think there's there's only one
00:25:34 engine I think there's there's only one

00:25:34 engine I think there's there's only one or maybe there's still a second geekdom
00:25:36 or maybe there's still a second geekdom

00:25:36 or maybe there's still a second geekdom in San Francisco but it started here in
00:25:38 in San Francisco but it started here in

00:25:38 in San Francisco but it started here in San Antonio headed out that way if that
00:25:40 San Antonio headed out that way if that

00:25:40 San Antonio headed out that way if that second one is still out around with a
00:25:43 second one is still out around with a

00:25:43 second one is still out around with a tech block it's been around for a few
00:25:44 tech block it's been around for a few

00:25:44 tech block it's been around for a few years now but Jeanine is a brand new to
00:25:47 years now but Jeanine is a brand new to

00:25:47 years now but Jeanine is a brand new to this just over a month into it you can
00:25:50 this just over a month into it you can

00:25:50 this just over a month into it you can hear her background on the intro
00:25:52 hear her background on the intro

00:25:52 hear her background on the intro discussion we had it'll be up on our
00:25:54 discussion we had it'll be up on our

00:25:54 discussion we had it'll be up on our website at wwlp.com on itunes or any of
00:25:59 website at wwlp.com on itunes or any of

00:25:59 website at wwlp.com on itunes or any of your favorite podcasting services on an
00:26:01 your favorite podcasting services on an

00:26:01 your favorite podcasting services on an Android device if you're listening to us
00:26:03 Android device if you're listening to us

00:26:03 Android device if you're listening to us on one of those podcasts thank you very
00:26:05 on one of those podcasts thank you very

00:26:05 on one of those podcasts thank you very much for tuning in find in cyber talk
00:26:07 much for tuning in find in cyber talk

00:26:07 much for tuning in find in cyber talk radio there would love to hear from you
00:26:09 radio there would love to hear from you

00:26:09 radio there would love to hear from you on Facebook or Twitter to let us know
00:26:11 on Facebook or Twitter to let us know

00:26:11 on Facebook or Twitter to let us know how you found out about the program
00:26:13 how you found out about the program

00:26:13 how you found out about the program where you started listening and what
00:26:14 where you started listening and what

00:26:14 where you started listening and what else you would like us to talk about and
00:26:16 else you would like us to talk about and

00:26:16 else you would like us to talk about and cover we do a fair amount on all sorts
00:26:21 cover we do a fair amount on all sorts

00:26:21 cover we do a fair amount on all sorts of things related to the technology and
00:26:23 of things related to the technology and

00:26:23 of things related to the technology and cybersecurity ecosystem sometimes we get
00:26:25 cybersecurity ecosystem sometimes we get

00:26:25 cybersecurity ecosystem sometimes we get into nerdy tech like where we talked
00:26:28 into nerdy tech like where we talked

00:26:28 into nerdy tech like where we talked with one of the founders of a company
00:26:29 with one of the founders of a company

00:26:29 with one of the founders of a company called hop zero about interesting new
00:26:32 called hop zero about interesting new

00:26:32 called hop zero about interesting new ways to defeat malware and hackers and
00:26:35 ways to defeat malware and hackers and

00:26:35 ways to defeat malware and hackers and stop data from getting extra trading
00:26:37 stop data from getting extra trading

00:26:37 stop data from getting extra trading from your network and then also we we
00:26:40 from your network and then also we we

00:26:40 from your network and then also we we talk all the way through to folks like
00:26:43 talk all the way through to folks like

00:26:43 talk all the way through to folks like Debbie pfitzenmaier at youth code Jam
00:26:45 Debbie pfitzenmaier at youth code Jam

00:26:45 Debbie pfitzenmaier at youth code Jam who are helping us get kids excited
00:26:46 who are helping us get kids excited

00:26:46 who are helping us get kids excited about technology jobs because if no
00:26:49 about technology jobs because if no

00:26:49 about technology jobs because if no one's getting a tech education
00:26:50 one's getting a tech education

00:26:50 one's getting a tech education Janine's gonna be out of work there's
00:26:52 Janine's gonna be out of work there's

00:26:52 Janine's gonna be out of work there's not gonna be anyone to recruit and all
00:26:53 not gonna be anyone to recruit and all

00:26:53 not gonna be anyone to recruit and all of us trying to run a tech company are
00:26:56 of us trying to run a tech company are

00:26:56 of us trying to run a tech company are gonna be struggling to operate grow and
00:26:59 gonna be struggling to operate grow and

00:26:59 gonna be struggling to operate grow and really build the economy of the next
00:27:01 really build the economy of the next

00:27:01 really build the economy of the next generation so I highly encourage if
00:27:03 generation so I highly encourage if

00:27:03 generation so I highly encourage if you're a parent out there get your kids
00:27:05 you're a parent out there get your kids

00:27:05 you're a parent out there get your kids involved in technology whether it's
00:27:08 involved in technology whether it's

00:27:08 involved in technology whether it's going to be their primary piece of their
00:27:10 going to be their primary piece of their

00:27:10 going to be their primary piece of their day job or if it's just going to be part
00:27:13 day job or if it's just going to be part

00:27:13 day job or if it's just going to be part the role I think everything is going to
00:27:15 the role I think everything is going to

00:27:15 the role I think everything is going to have some technology in it as kids in
00:27:18 have some technology in it as kids in

00:27:18 have some technology in it as kids in elementary school in middle school these
00:27:19 elementary school in middle school these

00:27:19 elementary school in middle school these days reach their way on through to the
00:27:24 days reach their way on through to the

00:27:24 days reach their way on through to the workforce and we were just watching was
00:27:26 workforce and we were just watching was

00:27:26 workforce and we were just watching was we were getting ready for the program
00:27:27 we were getting ready for the program

00:27:27 we were getting ready for the program here the studio a TED talk from the
00:27:29 here the studio a TED talk from the

00:27:29 here the studio a TED talk from the president of SpaceX showing off a rocket
00:27:31 president of SpaceX showing off a rocket

00:27:31 president of SpaceX showing off a rocket port and and she says within a decade
00:27:34 port and and she says within a decade

00:27:34 port and and she says within a decade we're gonna be flying rockets back and
00:27:37 we're gonna be flying rockets back and

00:27:37 we're gonna be flying rockets back and forth instead of airplanes potentially
00:27:38 forth instead of airplanes potentially

00:27:38 forth instead of airplanes potentially so this is the type of tech
00:27:40 so this is the type of tech

00:27:40 so this is the type of tech transformation that's happening and
00:27:41 transformation that's happening and

00:27:41 transformation that's happening and things are big things are going to
00:27:44 things are big things are going to

00:27:44 things are big things are going to happen here in San Antonio and all
00:27:46 happen here in San Antonio and all

00:27:46 happen here in San Antonio and all across any market where you are able to
00:27:51 across any market where you are able to

00:27:51 across any market where you are able to get people into the roles to execute on
00:27:54 get people into the roles to execute on

00:27:54 get people into the roles to execute on the ideas that businesses are coming up
00:27:56 the ideas that businesses are coming up

00:27:56 the ideas that businesses are coming up with now you're wondering maybe I went
00:27:58 with now you're wondering maybe I went

00:27:58 with now you're wondering maybe I went out and got a tech education and we had
00:27:59 out and got a tech education and we had

00:27:59 out and got a tech education and we had promised folks before the break we were
00:28:01 promised folks before the break we were

00:28:01 promised folks before the break we were gonna do a little bit on this so what
00:28:03 gonna do a little bit on this so what

00:28:03 gonna do a little bit on this so what are some tips for folks out there to
00:28:06 are some tips for folks out there to

00:28:06 are some tips for folks out there to figure out a resume get themselves hired
00:28:08 figure out a resume get themselves hired

00:28:08 figure out a resume get themselves hired like I mean do I put a picture of myself
00:28:11 like I mean do I put a picture of myself

00:28:11 like I mean do I put a picture of myself in my swimsuit on a surfboard in my
00:28:13 in my swimsuit on a surfboard in my

00:28:13 in my swimsuit on a surfboard in my LinkedIn profile definitely don't do
00:28:16 LinkedIn profile definitely don't do

00:28:16 LinkedIn profile definitely don't do that one of things not to do is that one
00:28:19 that one of things not to do is that one

00:28:19 that one of things not to do is that one understand I see it all the time that
00:28:21 understand I see it all the time that

00:28:21 understand I see it all the time that was a CEO
00:28:22 was a CEO

00:28:22 was a CEO I'm going through looking at stuff and
00:28:24 I'm going through looking at stuff and

00:28:24 I'm going through looking at stuff and like things that belong on your Facebook
00:28:26 like things that belong on your Facebook

00:28:26 like things that belong on your Facebook likely don't belong in your LinkedIn
00:28:27 likely don't belong in your LinkedIn

00:28:27 likely don't belong in your LinkedIn profile but it's so that what are other
00:28:29 profile but it's so that what are other

00:28:29 profile but it's so that what are other some some more sound advice than just
00:28:32 some some more sound advice than just

00:28:32 some some more sound advice than just Brett's off-the-cuff tips sure I'm
00:28:35 Brett's off-the-cuff tips sure I'm

00:28:35 Brett's off-the-cuff tips sure I'm actually glad that you brought up
00:28:36 actually glad that you brought up

00:28:36 actually glad that you brought up LinkedIn because that's you make a
00:28:37 LinkedIn because that's you make a

00:28:37 LinkedIn because that's you make a really good point so first and foremost
00:28:41 really good point so first and foremost

00:28:41 really good point so first and foremost absolutely get your Linkedin in order so
00:28:44 absolutely get your Linkedin in order so

00:28:44 absolutely get your Linkedin in order so maybe spend some money to get a
00:28:46 maybe spend some money to get a

00:28:46 maybe spend some money to get a professional photo taken you may have a
00:28:49 professional photo taken you may have a

00:28:49 professional photo taken you may have a friend that does it on the side get
00:28:51 friend that does it on the side get

00:28:51 friend that does it on the side get someone to take a professional photo
00:28:53 someone to take a professional photo

00:28:53 someone to take a professional photo don't use your your selfie or your
00:28:56 don't use your your selfie or your

00:28:56 don't use your your selfie or your Facebook photo for your LinkedIn
00:28:59 Facebook photo for your LinkedIn

00:28:59 Facebook photo for your LinkedIn definitely keep it professional and make
00:29:01 definitely keep it professional and make

00:29:01 definitely keep it professional and make sure that you're filling everything out
00:29:02 sure that you're filling everything out

00:29:02 sure that you're filling everything out on LinkedIn and that you're adding in
00:29:05 on LinkedIn and that you're adding in

00:29:05 on LinkedIn and that you're adding in some of those specific keywords in
00:29:07 some of those specific keywords in

00:29:07 some of those specific keywords in relation to the type of opportunity that
00:29:09 relation to the type of opportunity that

00:29:09 relation to the type of opportunity that you're looking for big butt because
00:29:10 you're looking for big butt because

00:29:10 you're looking for big butt because recruiters are using LinkedIn they're
00:29:12 recruiters are using LinkedIn they're

00:29:12 recruiters are using LinkedIn they're using LinkedIn to find talent like
00:29:14 using LinkedIn to find talent like

00:29:14 using LinkedIn to find talent like yourself and if your profile isn't
00:29:16 yourself and if your profile isn't

00:29:16 yourself and if your profile isn't complete we won't find you you might end
00:29:19 complete we won't find you you might end

00:29:19 complete we won't find you you might end up on page 100 and we're just not going
00:29:21 up on page 100 and we're just not going

00:29:21 up on page 100 and we're just not going to look that far yeah so definitely get
00:29:23 to look that far yeah so definitely get

00:29:23 to look that far yeah so definitely get your LinkedIn in order
00:29:25 your LinkedIn in order

00:29:25 your LinkedIn in order and believe it or not you will start
00:29:27 and believe it or not you will start

00:29:27 and believe it or not you will start getting messages about opportunities
00:29:29 getting messages about opportunities

00:29:29 getting messages about opportunities recruiters will reach out to you on
00:29:31 recruiters will reach out to you on

00:29:31 recruiters will reach out to you on LinkedIn secondly of course get your
00:29:33 LinkedIn secondly of course get your

00:29:33 LinkedIn secondly of course get your resumes together make sure that you're
00:29:35 resumes together make sure that you're

00:29:35 resumes together make sure that you're highlighting everything you did
00:29:36 highlighting everything you did

00:29:36 highlighting everything you did throughout your college program the
00:29:38 throughout your college program the

00:29:38 throughout your college program the internships that you've done the awards
00:29:41 internships that you've done the awards

00:29:41 internships that you've done the awards that you've received anything that will
00:29:44 that you've received anything that will

00:29:44 that you've received anything that will set you apart from other candidates out
00:29:47 set you apart from other candidates out

00:29:47 set you apart from other candidates out there make sure to include that on your
00:29:49 there make sure to include that on your

00:29:49 there make sure to include that on your resume you don't need to add a picture
00:29:51 resume you don't need to add a picture

00:29:51 resume you don't need to add a picture please don't do that
00:29:54 please don't do that

00:29:54 please don't do that no pictures on an actual resume picture
00:29:57 no pictures on an actual resume picture

00:29:57 no pictures on an actual resume picture on your LinkedIn profile don't put a
00:29:59 on your LinkedIn profile don't put a

00:29:59 on your LinkedIn profile don't put a picture on your resume yeah we don't
00:30:02 picture on your resume yeah we don't

00:30:02 picture on your resume yeah we don't want to necessarily know your
00:30:03 want to necessarily know your

00:30:03 want to necessarily know your extracurricular activities but again
00:30:07 extracurricular activities but again

00:30:07 extracurricular activities but again highlight those awards highlight what
00:30:10 highlight those awards highlight what

00:30:10 highlight those awards highlight what you did throughout your program if you
00:30:12 you did throughout your program if you

00:30:12 you did throughout your program if you were on the Dean's List or whatever it
00:30:15 were on the Dean's List or whatever it

00:30:15 were on the Dean's List or whatever it may be you can highlight those types of
00:30:17 may be you can highlight those types of

00:30:17 may be you can highlight those types of things on your resume yeah if you're
00:30:18 things on your resume yeah if you're

00:30:18 things on your resume yeah if you're president of the Toastmasters club or
00:30:20 president of the Toastmasters club or

00:30:20 president of the Toastmasters club or something like that you're gonna be
00:30:21 something like that you're gonna be

00:30:21 something like that you're gonna be doing public speaking in your role that
00:30:23 doing public speaking in your role that

00:30:23 doing public speaking in your role that could be useful highlight that
00:30:25 could be useful highlight that

00:30:25 could be useful highlight that extracurricular but if you were I mean
00:30:27 extracurricular but if you were I mean

00:30:27 extracurricular but if you were I mean president of the dog walking Club not
00:30:30 president of the dog walking Club not

00:30:30 president of the dog walking Club not necessarily relevant like it's good that
00:30:32 necessarily relevant like it's good that

00:30:32 necessarily relevant like it's good that you like dogs and you're taking care of
00:30:34 you like dogs and you're taking care of

00:30:34 you like dogs and you're taking care of them but it's not gonna be anything
00:30:35 them but it's not gonna be anything

00:30:35 them but it's not gonna be anything that's gonna be a skill that's gonna be
00:30:37 that's gonna be a skill that's gonna be

00:30:37 that's gonna be a skill that's gonna be applied in your day job exactly and then
00:30:40 applied in your day job exactly and then

00:30:40 applied in your day job exactly and then the other thing is get out there and
00:30:41 the other thing is get out there and

00:30:41 the other thing is get out there and start networking go to meetups go to
00:30:44 start networking go to meetups go to

00:30:44 start networking go to meetups go to events there Tuesday like a tech Tuesday
00:30:48 events there Tuesday like a tech Tuesday

00:30:48 events there Tuesday like a tech Tuesday which tech block puts on the second
00:30:50 which tech block puts on the second

00:30:50 which tech block puts on the second Tuesday of every month networking is by
00:30:54 Tuesday of every month networking is by

00:30:54 Tuesday of every month networking is by far the number one way to just get
00:30:58 far the number one way to just get

00:30:58 far the number one way to just get connected
00:30:59 connected

00:30:59 connected obviously in in the community and get
00:31:02 obviously in in the community and get

00:31:02 obviously in in the community and get your name out there and your interests
00:31:04 your name out there and your interests

00:31:04 your name out there and your interests out there it's the easiest way to find a
00:31:07 out there it's the easiest way to find a

00:31:07 out there it's the easiest way to find a job it's much easier than applying
00:31:09 job it's much easier than applying

00:31:09 job it's much easier than applying there's a hundred other people applying
00:31:11 there's a hundred other people applying

00:31:11 there's a hundred other people applying to that same job that you are but once
00:31:13 to that same job that you are but once

00:31:13 to that same job that you are but once you know someone once you can make that
00:31:14 you know someone once you can make that

00:31:14 you know someone once you can make that connection it will make your life a lot
00:31:16 connection it will make your life a lot

00:31:16 connection it will make your life a lot easier so just get out there yeah and
00:31:19 easier so just get out there yeah and

00:31:19 easier so just get out there yeah and and that it's one where if you go out
00:31:23 and that it's one where if you go out

00:31:23 and that it's one where if you go out and you've gotten the correct education
00:31:25 and you've gotten the correct education

00:31:25 and you've gotten the correct education you may be able to find they're gonna be
00:31:27 you may be able to find they're gonna be

00:31:27 you may be able to find they're gonna be recruiting on campus and you may be able
00:31:29 recruiting on campus and you may be able

00:31:29 recruiting on campus and you may be able to find a job but if you want to find a
00:31:31 to find a job but if you want to find a

00:31:31 to find a job but if you want to find a job that you really want you're gonna
00:31:33 job that you really want you're gonna

00:31:33 job that you really want you're gonna have to do some looking and not just
00:31:35 have to do some looking and not just

00:31:35 have to do some looking and not just fielding the inbound requests yourself
00:31:36 fielding the inbound requests yourself

00:31:36 fielding the inbound requests yourself so you can
00:31:39 so you can

00:31:39 so you can hopefully if you've got some technology
00:31:41 hopefully if you've got some technology

00:31:41 hopefully if you've got some technology skills and if you've gone to open cloud
00:31:42 skills and if you've gone to open cloud

00:31:42 skills and if you've gone to open cloud academy or code up or the Microsoft
00:31:45 academy or code up or the Microsoft

00:31:45 academy or code up or the Microsoft software and systems Academy we just
00:31:47 software and systems Academy we just

00:31:47 software and systems Academy we just talked to the folks that are open to
00:31:49 talked to the folks that are open to

00:31:49 talked to the folks that are open to that one up in San Antonio here out on
00:31:52 that one up in San Antonio here out on

00:31:52 that one up in San Antonio here out on Joint Base San Antonio and all of those
00:31:55 Joint Base San Antonio and all of those

00:31:55 Joint Base San Antonio and all of those places or if you've non-doing University
00:31:56 places or if you've non-doing University

00:31:56 places or if you've non-doing University and gotten a degree in technology you
00:31:58 and gotten a degree in technology you

00:31:58 and gotten a degree in technology you can probably find a job do you might not
00:32:00 can probably find a job do you might not

00:32:00 can probably find a job do you might not be able to find the job that you really
00:32:01 be able to find the job that you really

00:32:01 be able to find the job that you really want and you're gonna enjoy and those
00:32:03 want and you're gonna enjoy and those

00:32:03 want and you're gonna enjoy and those ones are going to require the network
00:32:05 ones are going to require the network

00:32:05 ones are going to require the network and they're gonna require getting to
00:32:07 and they're gonna require getting to

00:32:07 and they're gonna require getting to know the employers during fiestas here
00:32:09 know the employers during fiestas here

00:32:09 know the employers during fiestas here every year we've got a tech track now we
00:32:12 every year we've got a tech track now we

00:32:12 every year we've got a tech track now we had a 2,000 people I think attended this
00:32:14 had a 2,000 people I think attended this

00:32:14 had a 2,000 people I think attended this year's tech track which was crazy this
00:32:16 year's tech track which was crazy this

00:32:16 year's tech track which was crazy this was only the second year but as a Fiesta
00:32:18 was only the second year but as a Fiesta

00:32:18 was only the second year but as a Fiesta event it's one of the the most well
00:32:19 event it's one of the the most well

00:32:19 event it's one of the the most well attended now so there were 10 maybe 20
00:32:22 attended now so there were 10 maybe 20

00:32:22 attended now so there were 10 maybe 20 or maybe even more than 20 companies so
00:32:24 or maybe even more than 20 companies so

00:32:24 or maybe even more than 20 companies so that you could go walk up and down the
00:32:26 that you could go walk up and down the

00:32:26 that you could go walk up and down the Riverwalk area of San Antonio check out
00:32:28 Riverwalk area of San Antonio check out

00:32:28 Riverwalk area of San Antonio check out their headquarters get to know and meet
00:32:30 their headquarters get to know and meet

00:32:30 their headquarters get to know and meet the people get to see the differences in
00:32:32 the people get to see the differences in

00:32:32 the people get to see the differences in the way that they set up the way they
00:32:33 the way that they set up the way they

00:32:33 the way that they set up the way they operate because every company's got a
00:32:36 operate because every company's got a

00:32:36 operate because every company's got a unique culture and a unique way that
00:32:39 unique culture and a unique way that

00:32:39 unique culture and a unique way that they do business and they different
00:32:42 they do business and they different

00:32:42 they do business and they different mission that they're on and and all of
00:32:43 mission that they're on and and all of

00:32:43 mission that they're on and and all of those things are really gonna be the
00:32:45 those things are really gonna be the

00:32:45 those things are really gonna be the difference between a job and a career
00:32:48 difference between a job and a career

00:32:48 difference between a job and a career and a company that you really want to
00:32:50 and a company that you really want to

00:32:50 and a company that you really want to spend a long time at exactly yeah
00:32:53 spend a long time at exactly yeah

00:32:53 spend a long time at exactly yeah so true yeah so I know a tech block
00:32:57 so true yeah so I know a tech block

00:32:57 so true yeah so I know a tech block you're you're working on this early and
00:33:00 you're you're working on this early and

00:33:00 you're you're working on this early and they're getting a efficient way for
00:33:03 they're getting a efficient way for

00:33:03 they're getting a efficient way for candidates to meet employers and get
00:33:06 candidates to meet employers and get

00:33:06 candidates to meet employers and get some of that stuff up and going but if
00:33:08 some of that stuff up and going but if

00:33:08 some of that stuff up and going but if folks want to get involved in tech bloc
00:33:10 folks want to get involved in tech bloc

00:33:10 folks want to get involved in tech bloc or donate to tech block to fund that and
00:33:12 or donate to tech block to fund that and

00:33:12 or donate to tech block to fund that and fund other things the tech blocks doing
00:33:14 fund other things the tech blocks doing

00:33:14 fund other things the tech blocks doing so that you guys can help our our
00:33:15 so that you guys can help our our

00:33:15 so that you guys can help our our ecosystem grow more where where would
00:33:17 ecosystem grow more where where would

00:33:17 ecosystem grow more where where would they go online for the tech block
00:33:19 they go online for the tech block

00:33:19 they go online for the tech block website yeah of course so yes please
00:33:22 website yeah of course so yes please

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00:33:32 the tech industry in San Antonio that

00:33:32 the tech industry in San Antonio that newsletter will also include job
00:33:35 newsletter will also include job

00:33:35 newsletter will also include job listings that are in tech here in San
00:33:37 listings that are in tech here in San

00:33:37 listings that are in tech here in San Antonio as well and then there's a place
00:33:40 Antonio as well and then there's a place

00:33:40 Antonio as well and then there's a place that where you can contact us and that
00:33:42 that where you can contact us and that

00:33:42 that where you can contact us and that will go to our operations director
00:33:44 will go to our operations director

00:33:44 will go to our operations director Ashley and she'll get back to you right
00:33:46 Ashley and she'll get back to you right

00:33:46 Ashley and she'll get back to you right away you know and you can come out to
00:33:48 away you know and you can come out to

00:33:48 away you know and you can come out to those those tech Tuesday events those
00:33:51 those those tech Tuesday events those

00:33:51 those those tech Tuesday events those will get posted up on
00:33:52 will get posted up on

00:33:52 will get posted up on tech blocks Twitter their Facebook page
00:33:54 tech blocks Twitter their Facebook page

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00:33:56 they usually do a Facebook event for

00:33:56 they usually do a Facebook event for them and you can find those and come
00:33:59 them and you can find those and come

00:33:59 them and you can find those and come down and get to know folks you can get
00:34:01 down and get to know folks you can get

00:34:01 down and get to know folks you can get to have a conversation if you wanted
00:34:03 to have a conversation if you wanted

00:34:03 to have a conversation if you wanted some more personalized advice about a
00:34:05 some more personalized advice about a

00:34:05 some more personalized advice about a tech career here in San Antonio Janine
00:34:09 tech career here in San Antonio Janine

00:34:09 tech career here in San Antonio Janine will be at those tech Tuesdays and you
00:34:10 will be at those tech Tuesdays and you

00:34:10 will be at those tech Tuesdays and you know get a chance to talk to her when
00:34:12 know get a chance to talk to her when

00:34:12 know get a chance to talk to her when other folks out there in the the
00:34:14 other folks out there in the the

00:34:14 other folks out there in the the ecosystem that are likely looking to
00:34:16 ecosystem that are likely looking to

00:34:16 ecosystem that are likely looking to hire
00:34:17 hire

00:34:17 hire I know we've we've started doing a
00:34:19 I know we've we've started doing a

00:34:19 I know we've we've started doing a monthly CEO lunch down here and it was
00:34:22 monthly CEO lunch down here and it was

00:34:22 monthly CEO lunch down here and it was kind of monthly and then it wasn't
00:34:23 kind of monthly and then it wasn't

00:34:23 kind of monthly and then it wasn't monthly and when we just had one again
00:34:25 monthly and when we just had one again

00:34:25 monthly and when we just had one again here back in in May I guess we haven't
00:34:28 here back in in May I guess we haven't

00:34:28 here back in in May I guess we haven't had one in June yet that and this time
00:34:32 had one in June yet that and this time

00:34:32 had one in June yet that and this time more than half of the CEO is down there
00:34:34 more than half of the CEO is down there

00:34:34 more than half of the CEO is down there I didn't even know them
00:34:35 I didn't even know them

00:34:35 I didn't even know them which is kind of scary and kind of
00:34:38 which is kind of scary and kind of

00:34:38 which is kind of scary and kind of wonderful at the same time because I
00:34:39 wonderful at the same time because I

00:34:39 wonderful at the same time because I feel like I get out and get to know a
00:34:41 feel like I get out and get to know a

00:34:41 feel like I get out and get to know a lot of folks so how are you dealing with
00:34:43 lot of folks so how are you dealing with

00:34:43 lot of folks so how are you dealing with the the firehose of this I mean you
00:34:45 the the firehose of this I mean you

00:34:45 the the firehose of this I mean you could have a an hour-long meeting with
00:34:48 could have a an hour-long meeting with

00:34:48 could have a an hour-long meeting with just each of the the different CEOs and
00:34:51 just each of the the different CEOs and

00:34:51 just each of the the different CEOs and and get eight hours of action items out
00:34:53 and get eight hours of action items out

00:34:53 and get eight hours of action items out of that for the next then that could be
00:34:56 of that for the next then that could be

00:34:56 of that for the next then that could be your life for the next forever yeah
00:34:58 your life for the next forever yeah

00:34:58 your life for the next forever yeah exactly
00:34:59 exactly

00:34:59 exactly learning how to prioritize for sure and
00:35:02 learning how to prioritize for sure and

00:35:02 learning how to prioritize for sure and and of course I'm taking in as many
00:35:04 and of course I'm taking in as many

00:35:04 and of course I'm taking in as many requests as I can and I think like I
00:35:06 requests as I can and I think like I

00:35:06 requests as I can and I think like I mentioned earlier just getting out there
00:35:07 mentioned earlier just getting out there

00:35:07 mentioned earlier just getting out there a meeting with as many people as I can
00:35:09 a meeting with as many people as I can

00:35:09 a meeting with as many people as I can on the business side and then also on on
00:35:11 on the business side and then also on on

00:35:11 on the business side and then also on on the talent side but end of day I am I am
00:35:14 the talent side but end of day I am I am

00:35:14 the talent side but end of day I am I am just one person and I am going to do my
00:35:16 just one person and I am going to do my

00:35:16 just one person and I am going to do my best to prioritize and attack some of
00:35:18 best to prioritize and attack some of

00:35:18 best to prioritize and attack some of these some of the things that I've
00:35:19 these some of the things that I've

00:35:19 these some of the things that I've mentioned up front and of course just
00:35:23 mentioned up front and of course just

00:35:23 mentioned up front and of course just help whoever I can yeah in the process
00:35:25 help whoever I can yeah in the process

00:35:25 help whoever I can yeah in the process so if you're a startup but going through
00:35:28 so if you're a startup but going through

00:35:28 so if you're a startup but going through at what point like if you are you hire
00:35:30 at what point like if you are you hire

00:35:30 at what point like if you are you hire if you're hiring one person a month you
00:35:32 if you're hiring one person a month you

00:35:32 if you're hiring one person a month you probably can't have your own recruiting
00:35:34 probably can't have your own recruiting

00:35:34 probably can't have your own recruiting team or even a recruiter if you're
00:35:36 team or even a recruiter if you're

00:35:36 team or even a recruiter if you're hiring five people a month attempt for
00:35:38 hiring five people a month attempt for

00:35:38 hiring five people a month attempt for people a month like for some of the CEOs
00:35:40 people a month like for some of the CEOs

00:35:40 people a month like for some of the CEOs out there thinking about this that maybe
00:35:41 out there thinking about this that maybe

00:35:41 out there thinking about this that maybe they should have hired one and they
00:35:43 they should have hired one and they

00:35:43 they should have hired one and they haven't yet like at what point for how
00:35:45 haven't yet like at what point for how

00:35:45 haven't yet like at what point for how many new roles that you're bringing on
00:35:47 many new roles that you're bringing on

00:35:47 many new roles that you're bringing on every month should you be thinking about
00:35:48 every month should you be thinking about

00:35:48 every month should you be thinking about having somebody full-time that could be
00:35:51 having somebody full-time that could be

00:35:51 having somebody full-time that could be a liaison and really work with you but
00:35:52 a liaison and really work with you but

00:35:52 a liaison and really work with you but handle a lot of the work for the
00:35:56 handle a lot of the work for the

00:35:56 handle a lot of the work for the specific roles that they'll need to yeah
00:36:00 specific roles that they'll need to yeah

00:36:00 specific roles that they'll need to yeah so I think
00:36:02 so I think

00:36:02 so I think hiring one two three four people a month
00:36:05 hiring one two three four people a month

00:36:05 hiring one two three four people a month you might be able to manage that on your
00:36:07 you might be able to manage that on your

00:36:07 you might be able to manage that on your own
00:36:08 own

00:36:08 own although it can even at that minimal
00:36:10 although it can even at that minimal

00:36:10 although it can even at that minimal level it can become like an extra job or
00:36:14 level it can become like an extra job or

00:36:14 level it can become like an extra job or at least a part-time job at that point
00:36:15 at least a part-time job at that point

00:36:15 at least a part-time job at that point but once you're getting over hiring five
00:36:18 but once you're getting over hiring five

00:36:18 but once you're getting over hiring five or six folks a month on a on a
00:36:20 or six folks a month on a on a

00:36:20 or six folks a month on a on a consistent basis it may make sense to
00:36:23 consistent basis it may make sense to

00:36:23 consistent basis it may make sense to bring somebody on and you can start just
00:36:25 bring somebody on and you can start just

00:36:25 bring somebody on and you can start just hiring a contractor recruiter and that
00:36:28 hiring a contractor recruiter and that

00:36:28 hiring a contractor recruiter and that way if your business is ebbing and
00:36:30 way if your business is ebbing and

00:36:30 way if your business is ebbing and flowing you can cut that contractor when
00:36:33 flowing you can cut that contractor when

00:36:33 flowing you can cut that contractor when you need to bring a contractor back on
00:36:35 you need to bring a contractor back on

00:36:35 you need to bring a contractor back on you can hire part-time or just hourly
00:36:38 you can hire part-time or just hourly

00:36:38 you can hire part-time or just hourly but they can they can really dig in they
00:36:42 but they can they can really dig in they

00:36:42 but they can they can really dig in they can get on LinkedIn they can source
00:36:43 can get on LinkedIn they can source

00:36:43 can get on LinkedIn they can source candidates candidates passively for you
00:36:46 candidates candidates passively for you

00:36:46 candidates candidates passively for you rather than just you relying on like I
00:36:49 rather than just you relying on like I

00:36:49 rather than just you relying on like I mentioned earlier those resumes just
00:36:50 mentioned earlier those resumes just

00:36:50 mentioned earlier those resumes just coming in the door so a recruiter really
00:36:53 coming in the door so a recruiter really

00:36:53 coming in the door so a recruiter really can take some of that load off your back
00:36:55 can take some of that load off your back

00:36:55 can take some of that load off your back and help you find that talent in a more
00:36:58 and help you find that talent in a more

00:36:58 and help you find that talent in a more efficient way and definitely more
00:37:00 efficient way and definitely more

00:37:00 efficient way and definitely more quickly so once you're getting over that
00:37:02 quickly so once you're getting over that

00:37:02 quickly so once you're getting over that five or six or seven people a month I
00:37:04 five or six or seven people a month I

00:37:04 five or six or seven people a month I think it makes sense at least to hire a
00:37:06 think it makes sense at least to hire a

00:37:06 think it makes sense at least to hire a contractor to help you out ya know and
00:37:09 contractor to help you out ya know and

00:37:09 contractor to help you out ya know and and you think as you're starting to grow
00:37:11 and you think as you're starting to grow

00:37:12 and you think as you're starting to grow your business you go well we're never
00:37:14 your business you go well we're never

00:37:14 your business you go well we're never gonna hire that many people but then if
00:37:16 gonna hire that many people but then if

00:37:16 gonna hire that many people but then if you get up to where say you've you've
00:37:17 you get up to where say you've you've

00:37:17 you get up to where say you've you've got a company that's a hundred and fifty
00:37:19 got a company that's a hundred and fifty

00:37:19 got a company that's a hundred and fifty people if you have twenty or thirty
00:37:21 people if you have twenty or thirty

00:37:21 people if you have twenty or thirty percent annual turnover which these days
00:37:23 percent annual turnover which these days

00:37:23 percent annual turnover which these days is not that high people are staying in
00:37:26 is not that high people are staying in

00:37:26 is not that high people are staying in jobs for two years maybe three years but
00:37:29 jobs for two years maybe three years but

00:37:29 jobs for two years maybe three years but they're usually not staying in it for
00:37:30 they're usually not staying in it for

00:37:30 they're usually not staying in it for ten you've at that point with a hundred
00:37:32 ten you've at that point with a hundred

00:37:33 ten you've at that point with a hundred fifteen play company you're hiring five
00:37:34 fifteen play company you're hiring five

00:37:34 fifteen play company you're hiring five people a month or you're shrinking
00:37:35 people a month or you're shrinking

00:37:35 people a month or you're shrinking you're not even back filling the roles
00:37:37 you're not even back filling the roles

00:37:37 you're not even back filling the roles that you're losing from folks moving on
00:37:41 that you're losing from folks moving on

00:37:41 that you're losing from folks moving on to other opportunities so yeah so as
00:37:45 to other opportunities so yeah so as

00:37:45 to other opportunities so yeah so as you're out there and you're going and
00:37:46 you're out there and you're going and

00:37:46 you're out there and you're going and you're growing these are things to start
00:37:48 you're growing these are things to start

00:37:48 you're growing these are things to start thinking about if you were trying to go
00:37:50 thinking about if you were trying to go

00:37:50 thinking about if you were trying to go from 50 employees up to a hundred
00:37:51 from 50 employees up to a hundred

00:37:51 from 50 employees up to a hundred employees you really probably should
00:37:54 employees you really probably should

00:37:54 employees you really probably should have got a recruiter in on staff a while
00:37:57 have got a recruiter in on staff a while

00:37:57 have got a recruiter in on staff a while ago because you're gonna have to hire
00:37:59 ago because you're gonna have to hire

00:37:59 ago because you're gonna have to hire more than five a month because you're
00:38:00 more than five a month because you're

00:38:00 more than five a month because you're just got that higher five a month to get
00:38:02 just got that higher five a month to get

00:38:02 just got that higher five a month to get up the extra fifty for a while but then
00:38:05 up the extra fifty for a while but then

00:38:05 up the extra fifty for a while but then you're gonna also be back filling folks
00:38:07 you're gonna also be back filling folks

00:38:07 you're gonna also be back filling folks as they change roles inside your company
00:38:09 as they change roles inside your company

00:38:09 as they change roles inside your company again or if they move on elsewhere
00:38:11 again or if they move on elsewhere

00:38:11 again or if they move on elsewhere exactly and then that recruiter is
00:38:13 exactly and then that recruiter is

00:38:13 exactly and then that recruiter is bought in there they're seeing you
00:38:16 bought in there they're seeing you

00:38:16 bought in there they're seeing you maybe a 25-person company up to that 75
00:38:19 maybe a 25-person company up to that 75

00:38:19 maybe a 25-person company up to that 75 or 100 person company they know your
00:38:21 or 100 person company they know your

00:38:21 or 100 person company they know your business and it just it will make your
00:38:23 business and it just it will make your

00:38:23 business and it just it will make your life a lot easier this is one where the
00:38:26 life a lot easier this is one where the

00:38:26 life a lot easier this is one where the recruiters also not only they actually
00:38:28 recruiters also not only they actually

00:38:28 recruiters also not only they actually know how to do this on a full-time basis
00:38:30 know how to do this on a full-time basis

00:38:30 know how to do this on a full-time basis but they've have a network of contacts
00:38:32 but they've have a network of contacts

00:38:32 but they've have a network of contacts and peers where you may be trying to
00:38:35 and peers where you may be trying to

00:38:35 and peers where you may be trying to fill a role that's different than a role
00:38:39 fill a role that's different than a role

00:38:39 fill a role that's different than a role that someone else is trying to fill or
00:38:40 that someone else is trying to fill or

00:38:40 that someone else is trying to fill or they may know if candidates are coming
00:38:43 they may know if candidates are coming

00:38:43 they may know if candidates are coming into the area because a couple they're
00:38:45 into the area because a couple they're

00:38:45 into the area because a couple they're both relocating and so someone here is
00:38:47 both relocating and so someone here is

00:38:47 both relocating and so someone here is in that passive search because they've
00:38:49 in that passive search because they've

00:38:49 in that passive search because they've already hired one of the partners or
00:38:50 already hired one of the partners or

00:38:50 already hired one of the partners or they've got a partially accept a job
00:38:52 they've got a partially accept a job

00:38:52 they've got a partially accept a job offer and they're really trying to place
00:38:54 offer and they're really trying to place

00:38:54 offer and they're really trying to place that second person quickly or at least
00:38:56 that second person quickly or at least

00:38:56 that second person quickly or at least get a pipeline built up for that second
00:38:59 get a pipeline built up for that second

00:38:59 get a pipeline built up for that second person so they believe that they could
00:39:00 person so they believe that they could

00:39:00 person so they believe that they could come to San Antonio and find a role yep
00:39:03 come to San Antonio and find a role yep

00:39:03 come to San Antonio and find a role yep yeah definitely and I've worked through
00:39:05 yeah definitely and I've worked through

00:39:05 yeah definitely and I've worked through situations like that with those that I
00:39:07 situations like that with those that I

00:39:07 situations like that with those that I when I was at Rackspace that we're
00:39:10 when I was at Rackspace that we're

00:39:10 when I was at Rackspace that we're relocating here and their spouse was
00:39:12 relocating here and their spouse was

00:39:12 relocating here and their spouse was also looking for work and just helping
00:39:14 also looking for work and just helping

00:39:14 also looking for work and just helping their spouse get connected to the right
00:39:15 their spouse get connected to the right

00:39:15 their spouse get connected to the right people because I have that network and
00:39:18 people because I have that network and

00:39:18 people because I have that network and that's that's a big deal when people are
00:39:20 that's that's a big deal when people are

00:39:20 that's that's a big deal when people are looking to move here yeah so on the the
00:39:23 looking to move here yeah so on the the

00:39:23 looking to move here yeah so on the the tech jobs where I was talking software
00:39:25 tech jobs where I was talking software

00:39:25 tech jobs where I was talking software developers and these hard tech skills
00:39:26 developers and these hard tech skills

00:39:26 developers and these hard tech skills but so um as I look out the the window
00:39:29 but so um as I look out the the window

00:39:29 but so um as I look out the the window here from our studio across to scale
00:39:31 here from our studio across to scale

00:39:31 here from our studio across to scale works which is a venture equity firm
00:39:33 works which is a venture equity firm

00:39:33 works which is a venture equity firm here in downtown San Antonio they've I
00:39:36 here in downtown San Antonio they've I

00:39:36 here in downtown San Antonio they've I think seven or eight companies under
00:39:38 think seven or eight companies under

00:39:38 think seven or eight companies under that umbrella now and some of the
00:39:40 that umbrella now and some of the

00:39:40 that umbrella now and some of the principles there have come out that it's
00:39:43 principles there have come out that it's

00:39:43 principles there have come out that it's harder for them to find digital
00:39:45 harder for them to find digital

00:39:45 harder for them to find digital marketers potentially than it is
00:39:47 marketers potentially than it is

00:39:47 marketers potentially than it is software developers right now what are
00:39:50 software developers right now what are

00:39:50 software developers right now what are you seeing out there across the the
00:39:52 you seeing out there across the the

00:39:52 you seeing out there across the the labor market so I I have had several
00:39:55 labor market so I I have had several

00:39:55 labor market so I I have had several companies reach out on on the digital
00:39:57 companies reach out on on the digital

00:39:57 companies reach out on on the digital front looking for digital what they're
00:40:00 front looking for digital what they're

00:40:00 front looking for digital what they're calling a digital producer digital
00:40:01 calling a digital producer digital

00:40:01 calling a digital producer digital marketing so the digital side is
00:40:04 marketing so the digital side is

00:40:04 marketing so the digital side is definitely booming and especially here
00:40:06 definitely booming and especially here

00:40:06 definitely booming and especially here in San Antonio from what I've seen thus
00:40:08 in San Antonio from what I've seen thus

00:40:08 in San Antonio from what I've seen thus far I'm also seeing a lot on like you
00:40:11 far I'm also seeing a lot on like you

00:40:11 far I'm also seeing a lot on like you mentioned the web developer software
00:40:13 mentioned the web developer software

00:40:13 mentioned the web developer software developer software engineers there's
00:40:15 developer software engineers there's

00:40:15 developer software engineers there's there's just a ton of opportunity on
00:40:18 there's just a ton of opportunity on

00:40:18 there's just a ton of opportunity on that front as well that's the bulk of
00:40:22 that front as well that's the bulk of

00:40:22 that front as well that's the bulk of what I've been seeing even on the UX I'd
00:40:24 what I've been seeing even on the UX I'd

00:40:24 what I've been seeing even on the UX I'd UX design that's been that's been
00:40:27 UX design that's been that's been

00:40:27 UX design that's been that's been another one that I've seen
00:40:28 another one that I've seen

00:40:28 another one that I've seen up with a few different companies that
00:40:30 up with a few different companies that

00:40:30 up with a few different companies that have reached out so far yeah and for
00:40:33 have reached out so far yeah and for

00:40:33 have reached out so far yeah and for those that are out there in school what
00:40:35 those that are out there in school what

00:40:35 those that are out there in school what about the systems administration or
00:40:37 about the systems administration or

00:40:37 about the systems administration or people still managing servers these days
00:40:39 people still managing servers these days

00:40:39 people still managing servers these days I think somebody is there's Rackspace
00:40:41 I think somebody is there's Rackspace

00:40:41 I think somebody is there's Rackspace hire spokes to do that all the time so
00:40:42 hire spokes to do that all the time so

00:40:42 hire spokes to do that all the time so there's one at least one big employer
00:40:43 there's one at least one big employer

00:40:43 there's one at least one big employer here in town doing that and I guess as I
00:40:45 here in town doing that and I guess as I

00:40:45 here in town doing that and I guess as I think even up and down Houston Street
00:40:47 think even up and down Houston Street

00:40:47 think even up and down Houston Street here you've got liquid web another
00:40:50 here you've got liquid web another

00:40:50 here you've got liquid web another hosting company you've got hosts way as
00:40:52 hosting company you've got hosts way as

00:40:52 hosting company you've got hosts way as an office here that's good size so
00:40:54 an office here that's good size so

00:40:54 an office here that's good size so there's probably a number of those
00:40:56 there's probably a number of those

00:40:56 there's probably a number of those companies out there in this specifically
00:40:58 companies out there in this specifically

00:40:58 companies out there in this specifically in the technology industry harnesses
00:40:59 in the technology industry harnesses

00:40:59 in the technology industry harnesses administration but then I know like our
00:41:02 administration but then I know like our

00:41:02 administration but then I know like our neighbors that frost run their own data
00:41:03 neighbors that frost run their own data

00:41:03 neighbors that frost run their own data centers and many of the other larger
00:41:05 centers and many of the other larger

00:41:05 centers and many of the other larger employers here run their own data center
00:41:07 employers here run their own data center

00:41:07 employers here run their own data center so certainly I guess roles in the
00:41:08 so certainly I guess roles in the

00:41:08 so certainly I guess roles in the systems administration side of the world
00:41:11 systems administration side of the world

00:41:11 systems administration side of the world as well yeah absolutely they definitely
00:41:13 as well yeah absolutely they definitely

00:41:13 as well yeah absolutely they definitely exist and you know it's it's also I know
00:41:18 exist and you know it's it's also I know

00:41:18 exist and you know it's it's also I know it's an entry-level role but it's a way
00:41:21 it's an entry-level role but it's a way

00:41:21 it's an entry-level role but it's a way to get your foot in the door somewhere
00:41:22 to get your foot in the door somewhere

00:41:22 to get your foot in the door somewhere like a Rackspace or some of the larger
00:41:24 like a Rackspace or some of the larger

00:41:24 like a Rackspace or some of the larger employers here and then figure out maybe
00:41:26 employers here and then figure out maybe

00:41:26 employers here and then figure out maybe what you want to do from there but it's
00:41:28 what you want to do from there but it's

00:41:28 what you want to do from there but it's a great starting point and then if you
00:41:30 a great starting point and then if you

00:41:30 a great starting point and then if you want to move into something else it's
00:41:33 want to move into something else it's

00:41:33 want to move into something else it's much easier once you have that foot in
00:41:35 much easier once you have that foot in

00:41:35 much easier once you have that foot in the door in that company yeah no I mean
00:41:38 the door in that company yeah no I mean

00:41:38 the door in that company yeah no I mean it's it take if you found the company
00:41:41 it's it take if you found the company

00:41:41 it's it take if you found the company that you believe you want to work at my
00:41:43 that you believe you want to work at my

00:41:43 that you believe you want to work at my suggestion is take any job there and
00:41:45 suggestion is take any job there and

00:41:45 suggestion is take any job there and just be ready to kind of deal with that
00:41:48 just be ready to kind of deal with that

00:41:48 just be ready to kind of deal with that job for 12 months and then after you've
00:41:51 job for 12 months and then after you've

00:41:51 job for 12 months and then after you've got that year in talk with your manager
00:41:53 got that year in talk with your manager

00:41:53 got that year in talk with your manager about you know what so I think I have
00:41:56 about you know what so I think I have

00:41:56 about you know what so I think I have other skills and other capabilities here
00:41:57 other skills and other capabilities here

00:41:57 other skills and other capabilities here and I would like the opportunity to move
00:42:01 and I would like the opportunity to move

00:42:01 and I would like the opportunity to move into one of those roles at the company
00:42:02 into one of those roles at the company

00:42:02 into one of those roles at the company I'm at and companies are starting to
00:42:04 I'm at and companies are starting to

00:42:04 I'm at and companies are starting to learn now it's much better for them to
00:42:07 learn now it's much better for them to

00:42:07 learn now it's much better for them to let folks move and grow and progress and
00:42:10 let folks move and grow and progress and

00:42:10 let folks move and grow and progress and stay with the company because if not
00:42:11 stay with the company because if not

00:42:11 stay with the company because if not then that person is gonna move into
00:42:13 then that person is gonna move into

00:42:13 then that person is gonna move into passive search mode so they have a job
00:42:15 passive search mode so they have a job

00:42:15 passive search mode so they have a job they're working for you but they're
00:42:17 they're working for you but they're

00:42:17 they're working for you but they're really looking for the job that they
00:42:18 really looking for the job that they

00:42:18 really looking for the job that they want somewhere else
00:42:19 want somewhere else

00:42:19 want somewhere else yeah absolutely I mean internal hiring
00:42:22 yeah absolutely I mean internal hiring

00:42:22 yeah absolutely I mean internal hiring internal recruiting is is key I think to
00:42:25 internal recruiting is is key I think to

00:42:25 internal recruiting is is key I think to any company's success I mean what better
00:42:27 any company's success I mean what better

00:42:27 any company's success I mean what better person to look at than your own talent
00:42:30 person to look at than your own talent

00:42:30 person to look at than your own talent that already exists and like you said
00:42:32 that already exists and like you said

00:42:32 that already exists and like you said yeah you should be you should be patient
00:42:34 yeah you should be you should be patient

00:42:34 yeah you should be you should be patient if there's a company you know you want
00:42:36 if there's a company you know you want

00:42:36 if there's a company you know you want to work for go and take that entry-level
00:42:38 to work for go and take that entry-level

00:42:38 to work for go and take that entry-level role even though it might not be what
00:42:39 role even though it might not be what

00:42:39 role even though it might not be what you want to do forever
00:42:41 you want to do forever

00:42:41 you want to do forever do it for 12 to 18 months and do a
00:42:43 do it for 12 to 18 months and do a

00:42:43 do it for 12 to 18 months and do a really good job prove yourself and you
00:42:45 really good job prove yourself and you

00:42:45 really good job prove yourself and you will absolutely have opportunities to
00:42:47 will absolutely have opportunities to

00:42:47 will absolutely have opportunities to then move on to bigger and better things
00:42:50 then move on to bigger and better things

00:42:50 then move on to bigger and better things within that organization you're
00:42:52 within that organization you're

00:42:52 within that organization you're listening to 1,200 WOAI this is cyber
00:42:55 listening to 1,200 WOAI this is cyber

00:42:55 listening to 1,200 WOAI this is cyber talk radio and I'm joined this week by
00:42:56 talk radio and I'm joined this week by

00:42:56 talk radio and I'm joined this week by Jeanine while the chief talent
00:42:58 Jeanine while the chief talent

00:42:58 Jeanine while the chief talent recruitment officer at tech block whose
00:43:00 recruitment officer at tech block whose

00:43:00 recruitment officer at tech block whose help in technology companies in a
00:43:02 help in technology companies in a

00:43:02 help in technology companies in a businesses in San Antonio source find a
00:43:05 businesses in San Antonio source find a

00:43:05 businesses in San Antonio source find a tech talent and build our technology
00:43:07 tech talent and build our technology

00:43:07 tech talent and build our technology ecosystem across the city so I know
00:43:10 ecosystem across the city so I know

00:43:10 ecosystem across the city so I know you're pretty new in this and as we
00:43:12 you're pretty new in this and as we

00:43:12 you're pretty new in this and as we talked earlier in the program the labor
00:43:14 talked earlier in the program the labor

00:43:14 talked earlier in the program the labor market and especially hiring and
00:43:15 market and especially hiring and

00:43:15 market and especially hiring and Technology is not one of the things I
00:43:17 Technology is not one of the things I

00:43:17 Technology is not one of the things I think it's done the most efficiently so
00:43:19 think it's done the most efficiently so

00:43:19 think it's done the most efficiently so I'm really excited about your role and
00:43:20 I'm really excited about your role and

00:43:20 I'm really excited about your role and how you're gonna help this stuff out but
00:43:22 how you're gonna help this stuff out but

00:43:22 how you're gonna help this stuff out but I know as well we've we've talked a good
00:43:25 I know as well we've we've talked a good

00:43:25 I know as well we've we've talked a good a bit about all of these kind of core
00:43:27 a bit about all of these kind of core

00:43:27 a bit about all of these kind of core jobs that are getting hired out there
00:43:28 jobs that are getting hired out there

00:43:28 jobs that are getting hired out there but as I refer to them as my CEO had on
00:43:32 but as I refer to them as my CEO had on

00:43:32 but as I refer to them as my CEO had on my day job the purple squirrels or the
00:43:34 my day job the purple squirrels or the

00:43:34 my day job the purple squirrels or the the unicorns these unique roles the
00:43:36 the unicorns these unique roles the

00:43:36 the unicorns these unique roles the leadership team members it's the hard to
00:43:40 leadership team members it's the hard to

00:43:40 leadership team members it's the hard to fill you need someone with a specific
00:43:41 fill you need someone with a specific

00:43:41 fill you need someone with a specific skill set you may even need to try to
00:43:45 skill set you may even need to try to

00:43:45 skill set you may even need to try to help figure out how do I've got some
00:43:47 help figure out how do I've got some

00:43:47 help figure out how do I've got some candidates but how do I sell them on San
00:43:49 candidates but how do I sell them on San

00:43:49 candidates but how do I sell them on San Antonio so he some stories without
00:43:52 Antonio so he some stories without

00:43:52 Antonio so he some stories without naming names or companies or anybody
00:43:53 naming names or companies or anybody

00:43:53 naming names or companies or anybody else if things that you're working on
00:43:54 else if things that you're working on

00:43:54 else if things that you're working on already to help employers that are
00:43:57 already to help employers that are

00:43:57 already to help employers that are wondering is this the right fit for me
00:43:59 wondering is this the right fit for me

00:43:59 wondering is this the right fit for me to reach out to to you and detect walk
00:44:01 to reach out to to you and detect walk

00:44:01 to reach out to to you and detect walk about this yeah sure and I'd love to
00:44:03 about this yeah sure and I'd love to

00:44:03 about this yeah sure and I'd love to shares just some of the things that I've
00:44:05 shares just some of the things that I've

00:44:05 shares just some of the things that I've already started to work on so one die
00:44:08 already started to work on so one die

00:44:08 already started to work on so one die I'd love to share with with people I'm
00:44:10 I'd love to share with with people I'm

00:44:10 I'd love to share with with people I'm asking about what I'm doing right now
00:44:12 asking about what I'm doing right now

00:44:12 asking about what I'm doing right now I've had a company reach out local here
00:44:14 I've had a company reach out local here

00:44:14 I've had a company reach out local here to San Antonio they've they've been here
00:44:16 to San Antonio they've they've been here

00:44:16 to San Antonio they've they've been here for 15 plus years they're currently
00:44:18 for 15 plus years they're currently

00:44:18 for 15 plus years they're currently outsourcing all of their dev work to
00:44:22 outsourcing all of their dev work to

00:44:22 outsourcing all of their dev work to other agencies in other cities in Dallas
00:44:25 other agencies in other cities in Dallas

00:44:25 other agencies in other cities in Dallas and some of the bigger hubs and they
00:44:28 and some of the bigger hubs and they

00:44:28 and some of the bigger hubs and they they reached out and said hey you know
00:44:31 they reached out and said hey you know

00:44:31 they reached out and said hey you know we would love to have these jobs exist
00:44:34 we would love to have these jobs exist

00:44:34 we would love to have these jobs exist here in San Antonio can you help me find
00:44:36 here in San Antonio can you help me find

00:44:36 here in San Antonio can you help me find these people because if so we'll create
00:44:39 these people because if so we'll create

00:44:39 these people because if so we'll create those jobs here in San Antonio
00:44:40 those jobs here in San Antonio

00:44:40 those jobs here in San Antonio and I think that's that's huge that's
00:44:42 and I think that's that's huge that's

00:44:42 and I think that's that's huge that's what we want we don't want you
00:44:45 what we want we don't want you

00:44:45 what we want we don't want you outsourcing if you don't have to so
00:44:47 outsourcing if you don't have to so

00:44:47 outsourcing if you don't have to so that's something that I'm working on
00:44:49 that's something that I'm working on

00:44:49 that's something that I'm working on currently with that business owner just
00:44:50 currently with that business owner just

00:44:50 currently with that business owner just getting even from his job descriptions
00:44:53 getting even from his job descriptions

00:44:53 getting even from his job descriptions together and
00:44:54 together and

00:44:54 together and to get the word out there that this
00:44:56 to get the word out there that this

00:44:56 to get the word out there that this opportunity exists and once he he finds
00:44:59 opportunity exists and once he he finds

00:44:59 opportunity exists and once he he finds that person he'll want to build out a
00:45:01 that person he'll want to build out a

00:45:01 that person he'll want to build out a team which which is great so I'm helping
00:45:02 team which which is great so I'm helping

00:45:02 team which which is great so I'm helping him with that I also had another small
00:45:06 him with that I also had another small

00:45:06 him with that I also had another small startup company reach out that is
00:45:09 startup company reach out that is

00:45:09 startup company reach out that is looking to hire a chief technology
00:45:11 looking to hire a chief technology

00:45:11 looking to hire a chief technology officer and already have a candidate and
00:45:14 officer and already have a candidate and

00:45:14 officer and already have a candidate and process there that that they're getting
00:45:17 process there that that they're getting

00:45:17 process there that that they're getting really close on potentially making an
00:45:18 really close on potentially making an

00:45:18 really close on potentially making an offer to so that's super exciting
00:45:20 offer to so that's super exciting

00:45:20 offer to so that's super exciting so please yeah reach out to me if if you
00:45:23 so please yeah reach out to me if if you

00:45:23 so please yeah reach out to me if if you are looking for to do any of those types
00:45:25 are looking for to do any of those types

00:45:25 are looking for to do any of those types of things I would love to help ya and
00:45:27 of things I would love to help ya and

00:45:27 of things I would love to help ya and and this is the one where each one of
00:45:31 and this is the one where each one of

00:45:31 and this is the one where each one of these roles that gets filled each it
00:45:33 these roles that gets filled each it

00:45:33 these roles that gets filled each it allows another company to continue to
00:45:35 allows another company to continue to

00:45:35 allows another company to continue to grow on and thrive and succeed because
00:45:37 grow on and thrive and succeed because

00:45:37 grow on and thrive and succeed because some of those those critical roles if
00:45:40 some of those those critical roles if

00:45:40 some of those those critical roles if they sit vacant for 30 60 90 days a year
00:45:45 they sit vacant for 30 60 90 days a year

00:45:45 they sit vacant for 30 60 90 days a year and this is not an uncommon thing to
00:45:47 and this is not an uncommon thing to

00:45:47 and this is not an uncommon thing to have happen then potentially that whole
00:45:50 have happen then potentially that whole

00:45:50 have happen then potentially that whole business kind of almost grinds to a halt
00:45:52 business kind of almost grinds to a halt

00:45:52 business kind of almost grinds to a halt at least innovation may grind to a halt
00:45:54 at least innovation may grind to a halt

00:45:54 at least innovation may grind to a halt or big projects will grind to a halt and
00:45:58 or big projects will grind to a halt and

00:45:58 or big projects will grind to a halt and that impacts growth stifles growth in a
00:46:01 that impacts growth stifles growth in a

00:46:02 that impacts growth stifles growth in a big way and it hurts the economy much
00:46:07 big way and it hurts the economy much

00:46:07 big way and it hurts the economy much more than just one job being vacant
00:46:09 more than just one job being vacant

00:46:09 more than just one job being vacant because there maybe 10 20 50 other
00:46:11 because there maybe 10 20 50 other

00:46:11 because there maybe 10 20 50 other people at that company that aren't able
00:46:13 people at that company that aren't able

00:46:13 people at that company that aren't able to live up to their full potential and
00:46:16 to live up to their full potential and

00:46:16 to live up to their full potential and the the growth opportunity that may have
00:46:18 the the growth opportunity that may have

00:46:18 the the growth opportunity that may have been available for the the company that
00:46:21 been available for the the company that

00:46:21 been available for the the company that if they were able to fill that CTO role
00:46:23 if they were able to fill that CTO role

00:46:23 if they were able to fill that CTO role ends up going to another company
00:46:25 ends up going to another company

00:46:25 ends up going to another company somewhere else in another city it's so
00:46:28 somewhere else in another city it's so

00:46:28 somewhere else in another city it's so likely your biggest competitor is mostly
00:46:31 likely your biggest competitor is mostly

00:46:31 likely your biggest competitor is mostly in the tech world is not someone
00:46:33 in the tech world is not someone

00:46:33 in the tech world is not someone straight down the street from you even
00:46:34 straight down the street from you even

00:46:34 straight down the street from you even if you're in San Francisco or Boston or
00:46:36 if you're in San Francisco or Boston or

00:46:36 if you're in San Francisco or Boston or wherever else
00:46:37 wherever else

00:46:37 wherever else it's those are big markets on their own
00:46:40 it's those are big markets on their own

00:46:40 it's those are big markets on their own and your competitors likely not right
00:46:43 and your competitors likely not right

00:46:43 and your competitors likely not right next door to you yeah exactly
00:46:45 next door to you yeah exactly

00:46:45 next door to you yeah exactly so we're getting ready to to wrap up
00:46:50 so we're getting ready to to wrap up

00:46:50 so we're getting ready to to wrap up here so I know we had talked about the
00:46:53 here so I know we had talked about the

00:46:53 here so I know we had talked about the the one-year vision of this so initially
00:46:56 the one-year vision of this so initially

00:46:56 the one-year vision of this so initially when when tech block started up I think
00:46:58 when when tech block started up I think

00:46:58 when when tech block started up I think they wanted to get to a thousand members
00:46:59 they wanted to get to a thousand members

00:46:59 they wanted to get to a thousand members and now there are over 5,000 members so
00:47:01 and now there are over 5,000 members so

00:47:01 and now there are over 5,000 members so my vision for for you I think as chief
00:47:05 my vision for for you I think as chief

00:47:05 my vision for for you I think as chief talent recruitment officer let's let's
00:47:07 talent recruitment officer let's let's

00:47:07 talent recruitment officer let's let's see if we can get
00:47:08 see if we can get

00:47:08 see if we can get money out there - tech block help keep
00:47:11 money out there - tech block help keep

00:47:11 money out there - tech block help keep your your role going and that as well as
00:47:13 your your role going and that as well as

00:47:13 your your role going and that as well as help you grow your team because the the
00:47:16 help you grow your team because the the

00:47:16 help you grow your team because the the more that we're able to work together as
00:47:18 more that we're able to work together as

00:47:18 more that we're able to work together as a community here the more that it's all
00:47:21 a community here the more that it's all

00:47:21 a community here the more that it's all going to grow and build an ecosystem
00:47:23 going to grow and build an ecosystem

00:47:23 going to grow and build an ecosystem that we all benefit from I mean I see
00:47:26 that we all benefit from I mean I see

00:47:26 that we all benefit from I mean I see folks these days are looking to move to
00:47:29 folks these days are looking to move to

00:47:29 folks these days are looking to move to towns where cities where they know
00:47:32 towns where cities where they know

00:47:32 towns where cities where they know they're gonna have more than one job
00:47:33 they're gonna have more than one job

00:47:33 they're gonna have more than one job opportunity with one company so the more
00:47:36 opportunity with one company so the more

00:47:36 opportunity with one company so the more successful everybody is here the more
00:47:37 successful everybody is here the more

00:47:37 successful everybody is here the more likely we're all going to be able to
00:47:39 likely we're all going to be able to

00:47:39 likely we're all going to be able to fill our roles in each of our businesses
00:47:43 fill our roles in each of our businesses

00:47:43 fill our roles in each of our businesses individually yeah that's it couldn't be
00:47:45 individually yeah that's it couldn't be

00:47:45 individually yeah that's it couldn't be more true and and that's one of the
00:47:47 more true and and that's one of the

00:47:47 more true and and that's one of the reasons San Francisco has been so
00:47:49 reasons San Francisco has been so

00:47:49 reasons San Francisco has been so successful they've they've been in this
00:47:50 successful they've they've been in this

00:47:50 successful they've they've been in this it's been this collaborative environment
00:47:52 it's been this collaborative environment

00:47:52 it's been this collaborative environment where tech companies are working
00:47:54 where tech companies are working

00:47:54 where tech companies are working together not against each other and I
00:47:56 together not against each other and I

00:47:56 together not against each other and I hope that's the point that we can get to
00:47:58 hope that's the point that we can get to

00:47:58 hope that's the point that we can get to and that's why I'm here to to be that
00:48:00 and that's why I'm here to to be that

00:48:00 and that's why I'm here to to be that central point of collaboration to be
00:48:02 central point of collaboration to be

00:48:02 central point of collaboration to be that single point of contact and work
00:48:05 that single point of contact and work

00:48:05 that single point of contact and work together as a whole to make the San
00:48:07 together as a whole to make the San

00:48:07 together as a whole to make the San Antonio ecosystem what we need it to be
00:48:09 Antonio ecosystem what we need it to be

00:48:09 Antonio ecosystem what we need it to be and to help fund our growing tech
00:48:12 and to help fund our growing tech

00:48:12 and to help fund our growing tech industry yeah
00:48:13 industry yeah

00:48:13 industry yeah so come out meet Janina tech Tuesday in
00:48:15 so come out meet Janina tech Tuesday in

00:48:15 so come out meet Janina tech Tuesday in July contact her via the tech block
00:48:19 July contact her via the tech block

00:48:19 July contact her via the tech block website and you can get in contact with
00:48:21 website and you can get in contact with

00:48:21 website and you can get in contact with her or Ashley there who really runs a
00:48:24 her or Ashley there who really runs a

00:48:24 her or Ashley there who really runs a lot of the day-to-day operations for
00:48:26 lot of the day-to-day operations for

00:48:26 lot of the day-to-day operations for tech blocka you'll also likely see David
00:48:29 tech blocka you'll also likely see David

00:48:29 tech blocka you'll also likely see David heard around town if you're out
00:48:30 heard around town if you're out

00:48:30 heard around town if you're out following Janine's advice doing those
00:48:31 following Janine's advice doing those

00:48:31 following Janine's advice doing those networking things he's the CEO of tech
00:48:34 networking things he's the CEO of tech

00:48:34 networking things he's the CEO of tech block but then he also has a day job at
00:48:36 block but then he also has a day job at

00:48:36 block but then he also has a day job at one of our great technology companies
00:48:38 one of our great technology companies

00:48:38 one of our great technology companies here he's not quite down the program yet
00:48:41 here he's not quite down the program yet

00:48:41 here he's not quite down the program yet but we've had folks from his company on
00:48:44 but we've had folks from his company on

00:48:44 but we've had folks from his company on the program I'd love David for you to
00:48:46 the program I'd love David for you to

00:48:46 the program I'd love David for you to come on and talk about all the things
00:48:47 come on and talk about all the things

00:48:47 come on and talk about all the things that you do it at some point here in the
00:48:49 that you do it at some point here in the

00:48:49 that you do it at some point here in the future Thank You Brett and in cyber talk
00:48:51 future Thank You Brett and in cyber talk

00:48:51 future Thank You Brett and in cyber talk radio for having me here today super
00:48:53 radio for having me here today super

00:48:53 radio for having me here today super appreciative of this opportunity and
00:48:55 appreciative of this opportunity and

00:48:55 appreciative of this opportunity and just getting the word out there about
00:48:56 just getting the word out there about

00:48:56 just getting the word out there about tech block and my new role as Brett
00:48:59 tech block and my new role as Brett

00:48:59 tech block and my new role as Brett mentioned please reach out to us you
00:49:01 mentioned please reach out to us you

00:49:02 mentioned please reach out to us you could contact us on Facebook or via our
00:49:04 could contact us on Facebook or via our

00:49:04 could contact us on Facebook or via our website if there's anything that you
00:49:06 website if there's anything that you

00:49:06 website if there's anything that you need feel free to reach out I would love
00:49:08 need feel free to reach out I would love

00:49:08 need feel free to reach out I would love to to help you in any way that I can
00:49:10 to to help you in any way that I can

00:49:10 to to help you in any way that I can thank you guys so much
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