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welcome to cyber talk radio I'm your
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00:00:21 welcome to cyber talk radio I'm your host Bret Pyatt a 20-year internet
00:00:23 host Bret Pyatt a 20-year internet

00:00:23 host Bret Pyatt a 20-year internet security veteran I'm joined this week by
00:00:26 security veteran I'm joined this week by

00:00:26 security veteran I'm joined this week by a returning guest Jim thank you for
00:00:29 a returning guest Jim thank you for

00:00:29 a returning guest Jim thank you for coming back to the program thanks so
00:00:31 coming back to the program thanks so

00:00:31 coming back to the program thanks so much for having me here so last time you
00:00:34 much for having me here so last time you

00:00:34 much for having me here so last time you were here you were the executive vice
00:00:35 were here you were the executive vice

00:00:35 were here you were the executive vice president of business development for
00:00:37 president of business development for

00:00:37 president of business development for port San Antonio and we'll get into what
00:00:38 port San Antonio and we'll get into what

00:00:38 port San Antonio and we'll get into what port San Antonio was in a minute but I
00:00:40 port San Antonio was in a minute but I

00:00:40 port San Antonio was in a minute but I wanted to congratulate you and your
00:00:42 wanted to congratulate you and your

00:00:42 wanted to congratulate you and your promotion to CEO as we were talking
00:00:45 promotion to CEO as we were talking

00:00:45 promotion to CEO as we were talking before you get on the air I think Jim's
00:00:47 before you get on the air I think Jim's

00:00:47 before you get on the air I think Jim's officially and his title has interim CEO
00:00:49 officially and his title has interim CEO

00:00:49 officially and his title has interim CEO but as a CEO of a company myself I'll
00:00:51 but as a CEO of a company myself I'll

00:00:51 but as a CEO of a company myself I'll say we're all in a row but all until
00:00:53 say we're all in a row but all until

00:00:53 say we're all in a row but all until we're not so specifically in the program
00:00:57 we're not so specifically in the program

00:00:57 we're not so specifically in the program today we're gonna be talking about
00:00:58 today we're gonna be talking about

00:00:58 today we're gonna be talking about project tech out at port si so to start
00:01:03 project tech out at port si so to start

00:01:03 project tech out at port si so to start off just Jim can you give folks a little
00:01:05 off just Jim can you give folks a little

00:01:05 off just Jim can you give folks a little background for yourself and port San
00:01:08 background for yourself and port San

00:01:08 background for yourself and port San Antonio sure port San Antonio as many
00:01:12 Antonio sure port San Antonio as many

00:01:12 Antonio sure port San Antonio as many people in town know is the redevelopment
00:01:13 people in town know is the redevelopment

00:01:13 people in town know is the redevelopment of the old Kelly Air Force Base and we
00:01:16 of the old Kelly Air Force Base and we

00:01:16 of the old Kelly Air Force Base and we do two things there and we think we do
00:01:17 do two things there and we think we do

00:01:17 do two things there and we think we do two things very well
00:01:18 two things very well

00:01:18 two things very well number one we'd still do the old
00:01:20 number one we'd still do the old

00:01:20 number one we'd still do the old aviation work repair some of the biggest
00:01:22 aviation work repair some of the biggest

00:01:22 aviation work repair some of the biggest planes on the planet do some of the
00:01:23 planes on the planet do some of the

00:01:23 planes on the planet do some of the engine work but the real growth market
00:01:27 engine work but the real growth market

00:01:27 engine work but the real growth market is with the cybersecurity and the
00:01:28 is with the cybersecurity and the

00:01:28 is with the cybersecurity and the applied technology yeah so for for those
00:01:31 applied technology yeah so for for those

00:01:31 applied technology yeah so for for those in San Antonio the geography the way I
00:01:34 in San Antonio the geography the way I

00:01:34 in San Antonio the geography the way I keep track of stuff is Lackland is on
00:01:36 keep track of stuff is Lackland is on

00:01:36 keep track of stuff is Lackland is on the left side of town and Randolph is on
00:01:38 the left side of town and Randolph is on

00:01:38 the left side of town and Randolph is on the right side of town so Kelly used to
00:01:40 the right side of town so Kelly used to

00:01:40 the right side of town so Kelly used to be over by Blackland that's right in
00:01:42 be over by Blackland that's right in

00:01:42 be over by Blackland that's right in fact good chunk of Lackland used to be
00:01:44 fact good chunk of Lackland used to be

00:01:44 fact good chunk of Lackland used to be part of Kelly yeah and then over at
00:01:47 part of Kelly yeah and then over at

00:01:47 part of Kelly yeah and then over at Lackland now you've got the the 24th and
00:01:49 Lackland now you've got the the 24th and

00:01:49 Lackland now you've got the the 24th and 25th Air Force which are doing lots of
00:01:52 25th Air Force which are doing lots of

00:01:52 25th Air Force which are doing lots of cyber stuff mm-hmm which that geography
00:01:54 cyber stuff mm-hmm which that geography

00:01:54 cyber stuff mm-hmm which that geography allows you now is a privatized base for
00:01:58 allows you now is a privatized base for

00:01:58 allows you now is a privatized base for redevelopment there for different cyber
00:02:02 redevelopment there for different cyber

00:02:02 redevelopment there for different cyber security companies to locate out there
00:02:03 security companies to locate out there

00:02:03 security companies to locate out there where their customer is at that's
00:02:05 where their customer is at that's

00:02:05 where their customer is at that's exactly right if you're doing military
00:02:06 exactly right if you're doing military

00:02:06 exactly right if you're doing military cyber security if you're working with
00:02:08 cyber security if you're working with

00:02:08 cyber security if you're working with the government you're not going to get
00:02:10 the government you're not going to get

00:02:10 the government you're not going to get any closer to the customer than being on
00:02:11 any closer to the customer than being on

00:02:11 any closer to the customer than being on our property yeah and so this is kind of
00:02:14 our property yeah and so this is kind of

00:02:14 our property yeah and so this is kind of what led to the genesis of project TAC
00:02:16 what led to the genesis of project TAC

00:02:16 what led to the genesis of project TAC out there which is a building that was
00:02:18 out there which is a building that was

00:02:18 out there which is a building that was announced in May here in San Antonio
00:02:20 announced in May here in San Antonio

00:02:20 announced in May here in San Antonio that's right so how did that project
00:02:23 that's right so how did that project

00:02:23 that's right so how did that project come to fruition is this I think the
00:02:26 come to fruition is this I think the

00:02:26 come to fruition is this I think the Base Realignment closure redevelopment
00:02:28 Base Realignment closure redevelopment

00:02:28 Base Realignment closure redevelopment is something that's happening here all
00:02:30 is something that's happening here all

00:02:30 is something that's happening here all across town you've got the what's going
00:02:32 across town you've got the what's going

00:02:32 across town you've got the what's going on a port San Antonio you have Brooks
00:02:33 on a port San Antonio you have Brooks

00:02:33 on a port San Antonio you have Brooks City bass is another one here for so for
00:02:37 City bass is another one here for so for

00:02:37 City bass is another one here for so for those listeners in our audience help
00:02:38 those listeners in our audience help

00:02:38 those listeners in our audience help them learn a little bit more about how
00:02:40 them learn a little bit more about how

00:02:40 them learn a little bit more about how does this whole process work well the
00:02:42 does this whole process work well the

00:02:42 does this whole process work well the the brac process is relatively simple to
00:02:45 the brac process is relatively simple to

00:02:45 the brac process is relatively simple to state but really really complex to do
00:02:47 state but really really complex to do

00:02:47 state but really really complex to do when the government decides that they
00:02:49 when the government decides that they

00:02:49 when the government decides that they have an excess military installation
00:02:51 have an excess military installation

00:02:51 have an excess military installation they turn it over to the local community
00:02:54 they turn it over to the local community

00:02:54 they turn it over to the local community the local community develops what they
00:02:56 the local community develops what they

00:02:56 the local community develops what they call a local Redevelopment Authority to
00:02:58 call a local Redevelopment Authority to

00:02:58 call a local Redevelopment Authority to take title to it and then you figure out
00:03:00 take title to it and then you figure out

00:03:00 take title to it and then you figure out what you're going to do with it
00:03:01 what you're going to do with it

00:03:01 what you're going to do with it most communities around the country that
00:03:03 most communities around the country that

00:03:03 most communities around the country that have taken on an old government
00:03:05 have taken on an old government

00:03:05 have taken on an old government installation have turned it into some
00:03:07 installation have turned it into some

00:03:07 installation have turned it into some private development you look up at
00:03:09 private development you look up at

00:03:09 private development you look up at Mueller and while that's an airport up
00:03:11 Mueller and while that's an airport up

00:03:11 Mueller and while that's an airport up in Austin turned into a shopping center
00:03:14 in Austin turned into a shopping center

00:03:14 in Austin turned into a shopping center and somewhat of an entertainment
00:03:16 and somewhat of an entertainment

00:03:16 and somewhat of an entertainment district and that's what you see with
00:03:17 district and that's what you see with

00:03:17 district and that's what you see with most of these in San Antonio we did
00:03:19 most of these in San Antonio we did

00:03:19 most of these in San Antonio we did something a little bit different we
00:03:20 something a little bit different we

00:03:20 something a little bit different we wanted to see because these were such
00:03:22 wanted to see because these were such

00:03:22 wanted to see because these were such important job generators for the
00:03:24 important job generators for the

00:03:24 important job generators for the community how we could keep those jobs
00:03:26 community how we could keep those jobs

00:03:26 community how we could keep those jobs how we could grow those jobs and we
00:03:28 how we could grow those jobs and we

00:03:28 how we could grow those jobs and we could really keep San Antonio moving
00:03:29 could really keep San Antonio moving

00:03:29 could really keep San Antonio moving forward yeah so if you go out there at
00:03:32 forward yeah so if you go out there at

00:03:32 forward yeah so if you go out there at the the base so you had kind of the
00:03:34 the the base so you had kind of the

00:03:34 the the base so you had kind of the first phase of this and port Santa Toni
00:03:36 first phase of this and port Santa Toni

00:03:36 first phase of this and port Santa Toni has been around as the port for how long
00:03:38 has been around as the port for how long

00:03:38 has been around as the port for how long now as the port a little over 10 12
00:03:42 now as the port a little over 10 12

00:03:42 now as the port a little over 10 12 years the being a privatized base since
00:03:46 years the being a privatized base since

00:03:46 years the being a privatized base since 1998 the base was closed in 2001 but
00:03:49 1998 the base was closed in 2001 but

00:03:49 1998 the base was closed in 2001 but 1998 was the official transfer okay so
00:03:52 1998 was the official transfer okay so

00:03:52 1998 was the official transfer okay so you know over the last 20 years now and
00:03:54 you know over the last 20 years now and

00:03:54 you know over the last 20 years now and so if you're you're driving along out
00:03:56 so if you're you're driving along out

00:03:57 so if you're you're driving along out through that area you see all sorts of
00:03:59 through that area you see all sorts of

00:03:59 through that area you see all sorts of activity doesn't certainly look close
00:04:01 activity doesn't certainly look close

00:04:01 activity doesn't certainly look close you've guys you said the aeronautics a
00:04:03 you've guys you said the aeronautics a

00:04:03 you've guys you said the aeronautics a aviation fills up a good chunk of land
00:04:06 aviation fills up a good chunk of land

00:04:06 aviation fills up a good chunk of land but how much more Landa is out there for
00:04:09 but how much more Landa is out there for

00:04:09 but how much more Landa is out there for growth in the the cyber side of things
00:04:11 growth in the the cyber side of things

00:04:11 growth in the the cyber side of things Oh hundreds of acres we have about 1,900
00:04:15 Oh hundreds of acres we have about 1,900

00:04:15 Oh hundreds of acres we have about 1,900 acres that makes up the entire property
00:04:17 acres that makes up the entire property

00:04:17 acres that makes up the entire property and we have many hundreds of acres that
00:04:20 and we have many hundreds of acres that

00:04:20 and we have many hundreds of acres that are still ready to be developed so yeah
00:04:23 are still ready to be developed so yeah

00:04:23 are still ready to be developed so yeah this is one inside San Antonio lots of
00:04:26 this is one inside San Antonio lots of

00:04:26 this is one inside San Antonio lots of growth opportunities inside our City
00:04:28 growth opportunities inside our City

00:04:28 growth opportunities inside our City Limits still because the base is
00:04:30 Limits still because the base is

00:04:30 Limits still because the base is completely within city limits correct it
00:04:32 completely within city limits correct it

00:04:32 completely within city limits correct it is yeah so all the city services already
00:04:35 is yeah so all the city services already

00:04:35 is yeah so all the city services already there if you want to build grow you can
00:04:38 there if you want to build grow you can

00:04:38 there if you want to build grow you can go do that and then there may be
00:04:40 go do that and then there may be

00:04:40 go do that and then there may be incentives as well to a certain extent
00:04:43 incentives as well to a certain extent

00:04:43 incentives as well to a certain extent for building in a realigned area well
00:04:45 for building in a realigned area well

00:04:45 for building in a realigned area well there are incentives that are available
00:04:47 there are incentives that are available

00:04:47 there are incentives that are available but some of the best incentives number
00:04:48 but some of the best incentives number

00:04:48 but some of the best incentives number one you really can't be closer to your
00:04:50 one you really can't be closer to your

00:04:50 one you really can't be closer to your customer whether it's a government
00:04:52 customer whether it's a government

00:04:52 customer whether it's a government customer whether it's a private sector
00:04:54 customer whether it's a private sector

00:04:54 customer whether it's a private sector customer you have the ability to be
00:04:56 customer you have the ability to be

00:04:56 customer you have the ability to be there in terms of the backbone
00:04:57 there in terms of the backbone

00:04:57 there in terms of the backbone particularly for folks who are involved
00:04:59 particularly for folks who are involved

00:04:59 particularly for folks who are involved in cyber security we're fed by two
00:05:01 in cyber security we're fed by two

00:05:01 in cyber security we're fed by two different substations two different
00:05:03 different substations two different

00:05:03 different substations two different fiber-optic lines if you're involved in
00:05:05 fiber-optic lines if you're involved in

00:05:05 fiber-optic lines if you're involved in classified work we have the ability to
00:05:06 classified work we have the ability to

00:05:06 classified work we have the ability to run the classified lines right to the
00:05:08 run the classified lines right to the

00:05:08 run the classified lines right to the buildings but more than that there are
00:05:11 buildings but more than that there are

00:05:11 buildings but more than that there are some things that we can do because we
00:05:13 some things that we can do because we

00:05:13 some things that we can do because we are a political subdivision of the state
00:05:14 are a political subdivision of the state

00:05:14 are a political subdivision of the state that most developers can't do number one
00:05:17 that most developers can't do number one

00:05:18 that most developers can't do number one we don't pay taxes on the property that
00:05:19 we don't pay taxes on the property that

00:05:19 we don't pay taxes on the property that we own so if you're leasing property
00:05:21 we own so if you're leasing property

00:05:21 we own so if you're leasing property from us that property is not on the tax
00:05:24 from us that property is not on the tax

00:05:24 from us that property is not on the tax rolls which can be a pretty good savings
00:05:27 rolls which can be a pretty good savings

00:05:27 rolls which can be a pretty good savings depending on the type of building that
00:05:28 depending on the type of building that

00:05:28 depending on the type of building that you're giving but when we talk about
00:05:30 you're giving but when we talk about

00:05:30 you're giving but when we talk about incentives we think the real incentive
00:05:32 incentives we think the real incentive

00:05:32 incentives we think the real incentive is this deliberate collisions that we're
00:05:34 is this deliberate collisions that we're

00:05:34 is this deliberate collisions that we're making between industries you know as
00:05:37 making between industries you know as

00:05:37 making between industries you know as you know because you're in this industry
00:05:38 you know because you're in this industry

00:05:38 you know because you're in this industry the future of cyber security is not just
00:05:40 the future of cyber security is not just

00:05:40 the future of cyber security is not just Network cyber security it's applying it
00:05:43 Network cyber security it's applying it

00:05:43 Network cyber security it's applying it to manufacturing it's applying it to
00:05:45 to manufacturing it's applying it to

00:05:45 to manufacturing it's applying it to aviation to energy to healthcare to
00:05:47 aviation to energy to healthcare to

00:05:47 aviation to energy to healthcare to everything else you are not going to get
00:05:50 everything else you are not going to get

00:05:50 everything else you are not going to get a better laboratory for that then you're
00:05:52 a better laboratory for that then you're

00:05:52 a better laboratory for that then you're gonna find at port San Antonio we're
00:05:54 gonna find at port San Antonio we're

00:05:54 gonna find at port San Antonio we're talking so much today about project tech
00:05:56 talking so much today about project tech

00:05:56 talking so much today about project tech as being this first cyber building and
00:05:59 as being this first cyber building and

00:05:59 as being this first cyber building and it is but it's so much more than that
00:06:00 it is but it's so much more than that

00:06:00 it is but it's so much more than that we've got massive industrial facilities
00:06:03 we've got massive industrial facilities

00:06:03 we've got massive industrial facilities when it comes time to develop SCADA
00:06:05 when it comes time to develop SCADA

00:06:05 when it comes time to develop SCADA programmes industrial control systems or
00:06:07 programmes industrial control systems or

00:06:07 programmes industrial control systems or the applications of it we can model that
00:06:09 the applications of it we can model that

00:06:09 the applications of it we can model that out there so if you need to build a
00:06:11 out there so if you need to build a

00:06:11 out there so if you need to build a factory floor you need to build a power
00:06:13 factory floor you need to build a power

00:06:13 factory floor you need to build a power grid we have the ability to do that on
00:06:15 grid we have the ability to do that on

00:06:15 grid we have the ability to do that on the property and you can apply that
00:06:17 the property and you can apply that

00:06:17 the property and you can apply that cybersecurity there yeah so I mean then
00:06:19 cybersecurity there yeah so I mean then

00:06:19 cybersecurity there yeah so I mean then there's enough space out there to think
00:06:21 there's enough space out there to think

00:06:21 there's enough space out there to think through all of these is and we've talked
00:06:23 through all of these is and we've talked

00:06:23 through all of these is and we've talked about on the program the some of the
00:06:26 about on the program the some of the

00:06:26 about on the program the some of the problems with the consumer side of the
00:06:27 problems with the consumer side of the

00:06:27 problems with the consumer side of the Internet of Things but as our industrial
00:06:30 Internet of Things but as our industrial

00:06:30 Internet of Things but as our industrial systems become much more internet
00:06:33 systems become much more internet

00:06:33 systems become much more internet connected and as those industrial
00:06:35 connected and as those industrial

00:06:35 connected and as those industrial systems become much more computerized
00:06:36 systems become much more computerized

00:06:36 systems become much more computerized from a control perspective it's great
00:06:39 from a control perspective it's great

00:06:39 from a control perspective it's great when things are working well we can be
00:06:42 when things are working well we can be

00:06:42 when things are working well we can be much more responsive to water mains
00:06:45 much more responsive to water mains

00:06:45 much more responsive to water mains breaking you can reroute things more
00:06:46 breaking you can reroute things more

00:06:46 breaking you can reroute things more quickly you can close off pipe so we're
00:06:49 quickly you can close off pipe so we're

00:06:49 quickly you can close off pipe so we're not wasting water in an area where
00:06:51 not wasting water in an area where

00:06:51 not wasting water in an area where something shouldn't be going anymore
00:06:53 something shouldn't be going anymore

00:06:53 something shouldn't be going anymore because of some damage but on the flip
00:06:56 because of some damage but on the flip

00:06:56 because of some damage but on the flip side of that if someone's using these
00:06:58 side of that if someone's using these

00:06:58 side of that if someone's using these electronic
00:06:59 electronic

00:06:59 electronic rolls for nefarious means they can make
00:07:01 rolls for nefarious means they can make

00:07:01 rolls for nefarious means they can make bad changes to the system at scale where
00:07:03 bad changes to the system at scale where

00:07:03 bad changes to the system at scale where before they may have had to go around
00:07:05 before they may have had to go around

00:07:05 before they may have had to go around and crank a bunch of manual valves
00:07:07 and crank a bunch of manual valves

00:07:07 and crank a bunch of manual valves themselves and our physical police
00:07:10 themselves and our physical police

00:07:10 themselves and our physical police authorities pretty good at arresting
00:07:11 authorities pretty good at arresting

00:07:11 authorities pretty good at arresting people when they sneak on to saw's
00:07:13 people when they sneak on to saw's

00:07:13 people when they sneak on to saw's property or CPS property but if you can
00:07:16 property or CPS property but if you can

00:07:16 property or CPS property but if you can sneak onto that property from another
00:07:18 sneak onto that property from another

00:07:18 sneak onto that property from another country over the Internet it's a little
00:07:20 country over the Internet it's a little

00:07:20 country over the Internet it's a little bit more difficult for the Behr County
00:07:22 bit more difficult for the Behr County

00:07:22 bit more difficult for the Behr County Sheriff's or SAPD to come arrest you
00:07:24 Sheriff's or SAPD to come arrest you

00:07:24 Sheriff's or SAPD to come arrest you that's exactly right and that's why
00:07:25 that's exactly right and that's why

00:07:25 that's exactly right and that's why we're so excited about San Antonio
00:07:27 we're so excited about San Antonio

00:07:27 we're so excited about San Antonio there's a lot of talk about Austin
00:07:29 there's a lot of talk about Austin

00:07:29 there's a lot of talk about Austin there's a lot of talk about a lot of
00:07:31 there's a lot of talk about a lot of

00:07:31 there's a lot of talk about a lot of communities that do one or two things
00:07:32 communities that do one or two things

00:07:32 communities that do one or two things very well what we do in San Antonio is
00:07:35 very well what we do in San Antonio is

00:07:35 very well what we do in San Antonio is we have such deep silos of real real
00:07:37 we have such deep silos of real real

00:07:37 we have such deep silos of real real skills companies like yours that are
00:07:39 skills companies like yours that are

00:07:39 skills companies like yours that are really really know what they're talking
00:07:41 really really know what they're talking

00:07:41 really really know what they're talking about with cybersecurity big
00:07:43 about with cybersecurity big

00:07:43 about with cybersecurity big manufacturers big industrial operations
00:07:45 manufacturers big industrial operations

00:07:45 manufacturers big industrial operations and what project tech really is it's not
00:07:48 and what project tech really is it's not

00:07:48 and what project tech really is it's not a building it's a concept of let's close
00:07:50 a building it's a concept of let's close

00:07:50 a building it's a concept of let's close the loop let's bring the people who have
00:07:52 the loop let's bring the people who have

00:07:52 the loop let's bring the people who have the solutions to these technological
00:07:54 the solutions to these technological

00:07:54 the solutions to these technological problems put them right next door to the
00:07:56 problems put them right next door to the

00:07:56 problems put them right next door to the people that want to buy those solutions
00:07:58 people that want to buy those solutions

00:07:58 people that want to buy those solutions close the market and really create
00:08:00 close the market and really create

00:08:00 close the market and really create something that grows yeah and this
00:08:03 something that grows yeah and this

00:08:03 something that grows yeah and this happens I see from a pure kind of cyber
00:08:06 happens I see from a pure kind of cyber

00:08:06 happens I see from a pure kind of cyber perspective very often is you have the
00:08:09 perspective very often is you have the

00:08:09 perspective very often is you have the cyber security professionals off in a
00:08:10 cyber security professionals off in a

00:08:10 cyber security professionals off in a bubble and maybe they're working for a
00:08:12 bubble and maybe they're working for a

00:08:12 bubble and maybe they're working for a specialty firm doing their thing they're
00:08:14 specialty firm doing their thing they're

00:08:14 specialty firm doing their thing they're seeing attacks they're monitoring
00:08:16 seeing attacks they're monitoring

00:08:16 seeing attacks they're monitoring attacks and they're trying to figure out
00:08:18 attacks and they're trying to figure out

00:08:18 attacks and they're trying to figure out how to remediate and patch systems that
00:08:20 how to remediate and patch systems that

00:08:20 how to remediate and patch systems that have already been built by someone right
00:08:21 have already been built by someone right

00:08:21 have already been built by someone right and they're are attempting to band-aid
00:08:23 and they're are attempting to band-aid

00:08:24 and they're are attempting to band-aid it or put additional layers of security
00:08:26 it or put additional layers of security

00:08:26 it or put additional layers of security around a system that cannot necessarily
00:08:28 around a system that cannot necessarily

00:08:28 around a system that cannot necessarily be hardened or secured because of the
00:08:31 be hardened or secured because of the

00:08:31 be hardened or secured because of the way the system was initially designed
00:08:32 way the system was initially designed

00:08:32 way the system was initially designed and now firms are trying to add
00:08:35 and now firms are trying to add

00:08:35 and now firms are trying to add cybersecurity professionals into their
00:08:37 cybersecurity professionals into their

00:08:37 cybersecurity professionals into their design and development process but
00:08:39 design and development process but

00:08:39 design and development process but there's kind of a shortage of them a
00:08:41 there's kind of a shortage of them a

00:08:41 there's kind of a shortage of them a huge shortage of them we've talked about
00:08:42 huge shortage of them we've talked about

00:08:42 huge shortage of them we've talked about that on the program here quite a bit and
00:08:45 that on the program here quite a bit and

00:08:45 that on the program here quite a bit and as we keep referencing past programs or
00:08:48 as we keep referencing past programs or

00:08:48 as we keep referencing past programs or former content you can find it all
00:08:50 former content you can find it all

00:08:50 former content you can find it all online on our website at wwlp.com as
00:08:54 online on our website at wwlp.com as

00:08:54 online on our website at wwlp.com as well as on itunes or any of your
00:08:56 well as on itunes or any of your

00:08:56 well as on itunes or any of your favorite podcasting services if you
00:08:58 favorite podcasting services if you

00:08:58 favorite podcasting services if you wanted to hear ahead of the evolution
00:09:00 wanted to hear ahead of the evolution

00:09:00 wanted to hear ahead of the evolution over the last about year and a half of
00:09:02 over the last about year and a half of

00:09:02 over the last about year and a half of what's going on out at the port Jim
00:09:04 what's going on out at the port Jim

00:09:04 what's going on out at the port Jim talked to us on episode 11 right all at
00:09:07 talked to us on episode 11 right all at

00:09:07 talked to us on episode 11 right all at the beginning of our show and now here
00:09:08 the beginning of our show and now here

00:09:08 the beginning of our show and now here we are week number 93 we're on the air
00:09:13 we are week number 93 we're on the air

00:09:13 we are week number 93 we're on the air basically every week we might have
00:09:14 basically every week we might have

00:09:14 basically every week we might have skipped one or two over the last year I
00:09:16 skipped one or two over the last year I

00:09:16 skipped one or two over the last year I think they've been some playoff
00:09:17 think they've been some playoff

00:09:17 think they've been some playoff basketball games and maybe this Final
00:09:20 basketball games and maybe this Final

00:09:20 basketball games and maybe this Final Four thing that was in town here for a
00:09:21 Four thing that was in town here for a

00:09:21 Four thing that was in town here for a little while I don't think we got to air
00:09:22 little while I don't think we got to air

00:09:22 little while I don't think we got to air that Final Four weekend yeah I mean as
00:09:24 that Final Four weekend yeah I mean as

00:09:24 that Final Four weekend yeah I mean as you look at the cybersecurity talent
00:09:27 you look at the cybersecurity talent

00:09:27 you look at the cybersecurity talent shortage is how do you get those
00:09:29 shortage is how do you get those

00:09:29 shortage is how do you get those specialty firms integrated involved in
00:09:31 specialty firms integrated involved in

00:09:31 specialty firms integrated involved in the manufacturing design and those folks
00:09:33 the manufacturing design and those folks

00:09:33 the manufacturing design and those folks can't fly back and forth all the time
00:09:35 can't fly back and forth all the time

00:09:35 can't fly back and forth all the time they they're not going to go to where
00:09:37 they they're not going to go to where

00:09:37 they they're not going to go to where you're manufacturing is that you're
00:09:38 you're manufacturing is that you're

00:09:38 you're manufacturing is that you're gonna need to bring your manufacturing
00:09:40 gonna need to bring your manufacturing

00:09:40 gonna need to bring your manufacturing or your quality control process towards
00:09:43 or your quality control process towards

00:09:43 or your quality control process towards to those cyber folks to get that
00:09:45 to those cyber folks to get that

00:09:45 to those cyber folks to get that integration and involvement that's
00:09:47 integration and involvement that's

00:09:47 integration and involvement that's exactly right and in fact that's what
00:09:48 exactly right and in fact that's what

00:09:48 exactly right and in fact that's what got us thinking about this whole project
00:09:51 got us thinking about this whole project

00:09:51 got us thinking about this whole project at concept a couple years back we were
00:09:54 at concept a couple years back we were

00:09:54 at concept a couple years back we were off at an Aviation Week conference and
00:09:56 off at an Aviation Week conference and

00:09:56 off at an Aviation Week conference and we were talking to an airline that had
00:09:58 we were talking to an airline that had

00:09:58 we were talking to an airline that had spent an awful lot of money with a
00:10:00 spent an awful lot of money with a

00:10:00 spent an awful lot of money with a Silicon Valley firm to develop an app
00:10:02 Silicon Valley firm to develop an app

00:10:02 Silicon Valley firm to develop an app and when they got the app it just didn't
00:10:04 and when they got the app it just didn't

00:10:04 and when they got the app it just didn't work right for him it was doing exactly
00:10:06 work right for him it was doing exactly

00:10:06 work right for him it was doing exactly what the app was supposed to do but they
00:10:08 what the app was supposed to do but they

00:10:08 what the app was supposed to do but they didn't know what data to capture and
00:10:10 didn't know what data to capture and

00:10:10 didn't know what data to capture and they didn't know what format to spit
00:10:12 they didn't know what format to spit

00:10:12 they didn't know what format to spit that data back out to the mechanics and
00:10:14 that data back out to the mechanics and

00:10:14 that data back out to the mechanics and one of the airline folks said you know
00:10:16 one of the airline folks said you know

00:10:16 one of the airline folks said you know we'd really like we'd really like to
00:10:18 we'd really like we'd really like to

00:10:18 we'd really like we'd really like to have those people who know what they're
00:10:19 have those people who know what they're

00:10:19 have those people who know what they're doing on the technology side right in
00:10:22 doing on the technology side right in

00:10:22 doing on the technology side right in the same room with us so that we can
00:10:24 the same room with us so that we can

00:10:24 the same room with us so that we can walk it through because if we knew
00:10:25 walk it through because if we knew

00:10:25 walk it through because if we knew enough to be able to define what we were
00:10:28 enough to be able to define what we were

00:10:28 enough to be able to define what we were looking for we could probably go ahead
00:10:30 looking for we could probably go ahead

00:10:30 looking for we could probably go ahead and create that app ourselves it's that
00:10:32 and create that app ourselves it's that

00:10:32 and create that app ourselves it's that 10% that solution that we're looking for
00:10:34 10% that solution that we're looking for

00:10:34 10% that solution that we're looking for that there is just no substitute
00:10:37 that there is just no substitute

00:10:37 that there is just no substitute but for innovation through collaboration
00:10:40 but for innovation through collaboration

00:10:40 but for innovation through collaboration just getting people right next to each
00:10:42 just getting people right next to each

00:10:42 just getting people right next to each other you know and as software starts to
00:10:46 other you know and as software starts to

00:10:46 other you know and as software starts to get even further integrated into
00:10:48 get even further integrated into

00:10:48 get even further integrated into business processes manufacturing
00:10:50 business processes manufacturing

00:10:50 business processes manufacturing processes the industry specific domain
00:10:54 processes the industry specific domain

00:10:54 processes the industry specific domain knowledge becomes more and more
00:10:56 knowledge becomes more and more

00:10:56 knowledge becomes more and more important it's not so software is no
00:10:58 important it's not so software is no

00:10:58 important it's not so software is no longer technology that is a tool built
00:11:01 longer technology that is a tool built

00:11:01 longer technology that is a tool built in an abstract generic manner and it's
00:11:04 in an abstract generic manner and it's

00:11:04 in an abstract generic manner and it's now something that is built very
00:11:06 now something that is built very

00:11:06 now something that is built very integrated in specific into each system
00:11:11 integrated in specific into each system

00:11:11 integrated in specific into each system each industry each area I mean I'm not
00:11:14 each industry each area I mean I'm not

00:11:14 each industry each area I mean I'm not an expert in water control valves but
00:11:17 an expert in water control valves but

00:11:17 an expert in water control valves but I'm certain that they are significantly
00:11:20 I'm certain that they are significantly

00:11:20 I'm certain that they are significantly different than electronic for the the
00:11:23 different than electronic for the the

00:11:23 different than electronic for the the power grid distribution so
00:11:26 power grid distribution so

00:11:26 power grid distribution so problems you end up with water flowing
00:11:27 problems you end up with water flowing

00:11:27 problems you end up with water flowing through pipes is certainly different
00:11:30 through pipes is certainly different

00:11:30 through pipes is certainly different than electricity flowing through lines
00:11:32 than electricity flowing through lines

00:11:32 than electricity flowing through lines and those differences make to where
00:11:36 and those differences make to where

00:11:36 and those differences make to where routing software is not the same for
00:11:38 routing software is not the same for

00:11:38 routing software is not the same for both the security problems are not the
00:11:39 both the security problems are not the

00:11:39 both the security problems are not the same for both and without that industry
00:11:42 same for both and without that industry

00:11:42 same for both and without that industry specific knowledge you can't build a
00:11:45 specific knowledge you can't build a

00:11:45 specific knowledge you can't build a high quality secure system oh you're
00:11:48 high quality secure system oh you're

00:11:48 high quality secure system oh you're absolutely right there are there's one
00:11:50 absolutely right there are there's one

00:11:50 absolutely right there are there's one company we have on the property we're
00:11:52 company we have on the property we're

00:11:52 company we have on the property we're really proud of they're just out of
00:11:53 really proud of they're just out of

00:11:53 really proud of they're just out of stealth mode so we can talk about them
00:11:55 stealth mode so we can talk about them

00:11:55 stealth mode so we can talk about them it's called plus-one robotics and what
00:11:57 it's called plus-one robotics and what

00:11:57 it's called plus-one robotics and what they're doing is exactly what you're
00:11:58 they're doing is exactly what you're

00:11:58 they're doing is exactly what you're talking about they're taking industrial
00:12:00 talking about they're taking industrial

00:12:00 talking about they're taking industrial robots which are a known commodity at
00:12:03 robots which are a known commodity at

00:12:03 robots which are a known commodity at this point in time and they are
00:12:05 this point in time and they are

00:12:05 this point in time and they are retrofitting sensor arrays onto the
00:12:07 retrofitting sensor arrays onto the

00:12:07 retrofitting sensor arrays onto the robot so they can see and an artificial
00:12:09 robot so they can see and an artificial

00:12:09 robot so they can see and an artificial intelligence so that they can think
00:12:11 intelligence so that they can think

00:12:11 intelligence so that they can think which opens up a whole new world of
00:12:13 which opens up a whole new world of

00:12:13 which opens up a whole new world of opportunity for that industry you're
00:12:16 opportunity for that industry you're

00:12:16 opportunity for that industry you're seeing the same thing go on an aviation
00:12:18 seeing the same thing go on an aviation

00:12:18 seeing the same thing go on an aviation yeah you got airplanes now that maybe 10
00:12:20 yeah you got airplanes now that maybe 10

00:12:20 yeah you got airplanes now that maybe 10 15 20 30 years old they've still got
00:12:23 15 20 30 years old they've still got

00:12:23 15 20 30 years old they've still got decades of life ahead of them but they
00:12:25 decades of life ahead of them but they

00:12:25 decades of life ahead of them but they need to be brought up to the new
00:12:26 need to be brought up to the new

00:12:26 need to be brought up to the new communication standard they need to be
00:12:28 communication standard they need to be

00:12:28 communication standard they need to be brought up to the new security standard
00:12:30 brought up to the new security standard

00:12:30 brought up to the new security standard and to do that you need somebody who not
00:12:32 and to do that you need somebody who not

00:12:32 and to do that you need somebody who not only knows the technology but somebody
00:12:35 only knows the technology but somebody

00:12:35 only knows the technology but somebody who knows how to go in there and
00:12:36 who knows how to go in there and

00:12:36 who knows how to go in there and actually install it on an airplane and
00:12:38 actually install it on an airplane and

00:12:38 actually install it on an airplane and the one thing I'd say and I think this
00:12:39 the one thing I'd say and I think this

00:12:39 the one thing I'd say and I think this is really really important for San
00:12:41 is really really important for San

00:12:41 is really really important for San Antonio
00:12:42 Antonio

00:12:42 Antonio we keep hearing about the problems with
00:12:44 we keep hearing about the problems with

00:12:44 we keep hearing about the problems with venture capital and San Antonio we keep
00:12:46 venture capital and San Antonio we keep

00:12:46 venture capital and San Antonio we keep hearing that there is difficulty getting
00:12:48 hearing that there is difficulty getting

00:12:48 hearing that there is difficulty getting it and I think there's probably some
00:12:49 it and I think there's probably some

00:12:49 it and I think there's probably some truth to that but you look at the
00:12:51 truth to that but you look at the

00:12:51 truth to that but you look at the corporations that are willing to invest
00:12:54 corporations that are willing to invest

00:12:54 corporations that are willing to invest Lockheed Martin just announced recently
00:12:56 Lockheed Martin just announced recently

00:12:56 Lockheed Martin just announced recently they're putting another hundred million
00:12:57 they're putting another hundred million

00:12:57 they're putting another hundred million dollars into their venture fund Airbus
00:13:00 dollars into their venture fund Airbus

00:13:00 dollars into their venture fund Airbus has a fund a three that they've got out
00:13:02 has a fund a three that they've got out

00:13:02 has a fund a three that they've got out there JetBlue United GE the list goes on
00:13:05 there JetBlue United GE the list goes on

00:13:05 there JetBlue United GE the list goes on and on bowing with horizon X these are
00:13:08 and on bowing with horizon X these are

00:13:08 and on bowing with horizon X these are companies that are looking for solutions
00:13:11 companies that are looking for solutions

00:13:11 companies that are looking for solutions and part of what we want to do with
00:13:12 and part of what we want to do with

00:13:12 and part of what we want to do with project tech is really not just port
00:13:15 project tech is really not just port

00:13:15 project tech is really not just port centric it's city centric we want to
00:13:17 centric it's city centric we want to

00:13:17 centric it's city centric we want to show off the capabilities that we have
00:13:19 show off the capabilities that we have

00:13:19 show off the capabilities that we have throughout this community whether you're
00:13:21 throughout this community whether you're

00:13:21 throughout this community whether you're downtown whether you're North Side south
00:13:23 downtown whether you're North Side south

00:13:23 downtown whether you're North Side south side east side or west side and this is
00:13:25 side east side or west side and this is

00:13:25 side east side or west side and this is the place where you can apply those
00:13:27 the place where you can apply those

00:13:27 the place where you can apply those technologies and really make some money
00:13:29 technologies and really make some money

00:13:29 technologies and really make some money yeah and and I think this is one where
00:13:31 yeah and and I think this is one where

00:13:31 yeah and and I think this is one where you look at the the standalone sort of
00:13:34 you look at the the standalone sort of

00:13:34 you look at the the standalone sort of early stage and when people think
00:13:35 early stage and when people think

00:13:35 early stage and when people think venture capital I think they they're
00:13:37 venture capital I think they they're

00:13:37 venture capital I think they they're thinking Silicon Valley firms that are
00:13:39 thinking Silicon Valley firms that are

00:13:39 thinking Silicon Valley firms that are sponsoring the funding of the next great
00:13:42 sponsoring the funding of the next great

00:13:42 sponsoring the funding of the next great consumer thing and in San Antonio
00:13:44 consumer thing and in San Antonio

00:13:44 consumer thing and in San Antonio certainly a shortage for that but
00:13:45 certainly a shortage for that but

00:13:45 certainly a shortage for that but there's also not a ton of consumer app
00:13:48 there's also not a ton of consumer app

00:13:48 there's also not a ton of consumer app focused entrepreneurs here in town and
00:13:52 focused entrepreneurs here in town and

00:13:52 focused entrepreneurs here in town and then on the flip side of that is the I'm
00:13:55 then on the flip side of that is the I'm

00:13:55 then on the flip side of that is the I'm gonna call it the unsexy tech which is
00:13:58 gonna call it the unsexy tech which is

00:13:58 gonna call it the unsexy tech which is what a lot of this is I give if you go
00:14:01 what a lot of this is I give if you go

00:14:01 what a lot of this is I give if you go talk to kids and then what do they want
00:14:04 talk to kids and then what do they want

00:14:04 talk to kids and then what do they want to work on it's things that impact their
00:14:06 to work on it's things that impact their

00:14:06 to work on it's things that impact their life it's the next Instagram and that
00:14:09 life it's the next Instagram and that

00:14:09 life it's the next Instagram and that you get much fewer and far between if
00:14:11 you get much fewer and far between if

00:14:11 you get much fewer and far between if you you go home and you you tell your
00:14:13 you you go home and you you tell your

00:14:13 you you go home and you you tell your friends that you're working on the
00:14:16 friends that you're working on the

00:14:16 friends that you're working on the security routing for avionics
00:14:20 security routing for avionics

00:14:20 security routing for avionics communication between the ground radar
00:14:24 communication between the ground radar

00:14:24 communication between the ground radar and an airport and the airplanes to make
00:14:26 and an airport and the airplanes to make

00:14:26 and an airport and the airplanes to make them more efficient for takeoff and
00:14:27 them more efficient for takeoff and

00:14:27 them more efficient for takeoff and landing your friends eyes start to glaze
00:14:29 landing your friends eyes start to glaze

00:14:29 landing your friends eyes start to glaze over they're like oh why do I want to
00:14:30 over they're like oh why do I want to

00:14:30 over they're like oh why do I want to talk to you about this but I mean those
00:14:33 talk to you about this but I mean those

00:14:33 talk to you about this but I mean those are things where there's tons of money
00:14:35 are things where there's tons of money

00:14:35 are things where there's tons of money out there for that if you could make
00:14:36 out there for that if you could make

00:14:36 out there for that if you could make airports run 5% more efficiently because
00:14:39 airports run 5% more efficiently because

00:14:39 airports run 5% more efficiently because they can get planes up off the the
00:14:42 they can get planes up off the the

00:14:42 they can get planes up off the the runway more quickly if they can land
00:14:44 runway more quickly if they can land

00:14:44 runway more quickly if they can land more planes if they can do that in a way
00:14:46 more planes if they can do that in a way

00:14:46 more planes if they can do that in a way to where the the planes are burning less
00:14:48 to where the the planes are burning less

00:14:48 to where the the planes are burning less fuel circling around and improving
00:14:50 fuel circling around and improving

00:14:50 fuel circling around and improving flight routes there's lots and lots of
00:14:52 flight routes there's lots and lots of

00:14:52 flight routes there's lots and lots of dollars in there and I think there's no
00:14:54 dollars in there and I think there's no

00:14:54 dollars in there and I think there's no shortage of venture capital in a place
00:14:56 shortage of venture capital in a place

00:14:56 shortage of venture capital in a place like San Antonio for ideas like that
00:14:58 like San Antonio for ideas like that

00:14:58 like San Antonio for ideas like that that's absolutely right you know you can
00:14:59 that's absolutely right you know you can

00:15:00 that's absolutely right you know you can think of it as being unsexy and it
00:15:01 think of it as being unsexy and it

00:15:01 think of it as being unsexy and it probably is it becomes an awful lot
00:15:03 probably is it becomes an awful lot

00:15:03 probably is it becomes an awful lot sexier when you're the one on that
00:15:05 sexier when you're the one on that

00:15:05 sexier when you're the one on that airplane and you want to make sure that
00:15:07 airplane and you want to make sure that

00:15:07 airplane and you want to make sure that your position is being accurately
00:15:09 your position is being accurately

00:15:09 your position is being accurately reported and accurately tracked so
00:15:11 reported and accurately tracked so

00:15:11 reported and accurately tracked so you're listening to 1200 W AI this is
00:15:14 you're listening to 1200 W AI this is

00:15:14 you're listening to 1200 W AI this is cyber talk radio I'm your host Bret
00:15:16 cyber talk radio I'm your host Bret

00:15:16 cyber talk radio I'm your host Bret Pyatt joined by Jim push back the CEO
00:15:18 Pyatt joined by Jim push back the CEO

00:15:18 Pyatt joined by Jim push back the CEO out at port San Antonio we're talking
00:15:21 out at port San Antonio we're talking

00:15:21 out at port San Antonio we're talking about a project Tech which is a building
00:15:23 about a project Tech which is a building

00:15:23 about a project Tech which is a building in a way but it's also a bigger arc for
00:15:26 in a way but it's also a bigger arc for

00:15:26 in a way but it's also a bigger arc for the port if you just turned your radio
00:15:29 the port if you just turned your radio

00:15:29 the port if you just turned your radio on right now you can listen with a
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00:15:39 black and white still photo maybe we'll even put it up in color this time of Jim
00:15:41 even put it up in color this time of Jim

00:15:41 even put it up in color this time of Jim and I but you will not get to see live
00:15:43 and I but you will not get to see live

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00:16:00 any of the other ones where if you're wondering you know what I want to get
00:16:02 wondering you know what I want to get

00:16:02 wondering you know what I want to get involved in some of this stuff I like
00:16:04 involved in some of this stuff I like

00:16:04 involved in some of this stuff I like this idea I've got a Aeronautics
00:16:07 this idea I've got a Aeronautics

00:16:07 this idea I've got a Aeronautics engineering background I don't have a
00:16:09 engineering background I don't have a

00:16:09 engineering background I don't have a computer background I want to learn more
00:16:11 computer background I want to learn more

00:16:11 computer background I want to learn more about how do I learn some of these
00:16:12 about how do I learn some of these

00:16:12 about how do I learn some of these cybersecurity pieces we've had on folks
00:16:16 cybersecurity pieces we've had on folks

00:16:16 cybersecurity pieces we've had on folks from the Microsoft software and systems
00:16:18 from the Microsoft software and systems

00:16:18 from the Microsoft software and systems Academy talking about what they're doing
00:16:20 Academy talking about what they're doing

00:16:20 Academy talking about what they're doing for active duty military or retired
00:16:23 for active duty military or retired

00:16:23 for active duty military or retired military veterans folks from code up
00:16:25 military veterans folks from code up

00:16:25 military veterans folks from code up folks from open cloud Academy and all
00:16:28 folks from open cloud Academy and all

00:16:28 folks from open cloud Academy and all sorts of ways you can start to get a
00:16:30 sorts of ways you can start to get a

00:16:30 sorts of ways you can start to get a tech education to get into these career
00:16:33 tech education to get into these career

00:16:33 tech education to get into these career paths in these jobs or to advance
00:16:35 paths in these jobs or to advance

00:16:35 paths in these jobs or to advance yourself at the your company you're at
00:16:36 yourself at the your company you're at

00:16:36 yourself at the your company you're at right now because if you came into your
00:16:39 right now because if you came into your

00:16:39 right now because if you came into your boss tomorrow and said not only do I
00:16:41 boss tomorrow and said not only do I

00:16:41 boss tomorrow and said not only do I know how to work on airframes and plug
00:16:44 know how to work on airframes and plug

00:16:44 know how to work on airframes and plug technology into them but I've now
00:16:46 technology into them but I've now

00:16:46 technology into them but I've now learned how to actually make that tech
00:16:48 learned how to actually make that tech

00:16:48 learned how to actually make that tech better there's ways we can improve the
00:16:50 better there's ways we can improve the

00:16:50 better there's ways we can improve the patching and updating and maintenance
00:16:52 patching and updating and maintenance

00:16:52 patching and updating and maintenance and all those sorts of things that will
00:16:53 and all those sorts of things that will

00:16:53 and all those sorts of things that will make all of our embedded systems better
00:16:56 make all of our embedded systems better

00:16:56 make all of our embedded systems better over the next decade then those
00:16:58 over the next decade then those

00:16:58 over the next decade then those education opportunities are here for you
00:17:00 education opportunities are here for you

00:17:00 education opportunities are here for you and those job opportunities are here
00:17:01 and those job opportunities are here

00:17:01 and those job opportunities are here yeah so out at port San Antonio one of
00:17:04 yeah so out at port San Antonio one of

00:17:04 yeah so out at port San Antonio one of the things as well as as we started to
00:17:07 the things as well as as we started to

00:17:07 the things as well as as we started to rebuild our tech ecosystem here in San
00:17:10 rebuild our tech ecosystem here in San

00:17:10 rebuild our tech ecosystem here in San Antonio we say we had a ton of tech jobs
00:17:12 Antonio we say we had a ton of tech jobs

00:17:12 Antonio we say we had a ton of tech jobs AT&T packed up and moved mostly out of
00:17:15 AT&T packed up and moved mostly out of

00:17:15 AT&T packed up and moved mostly out of downtown here took many of those tech
00:17:18 downtown here took many of those tech

00:17:18 downtown here took many of those tech R&D jobs with them up to to Dallas we've
00:17:21 R&D jobs with them up to to Dallas we've

00:17:21 R&D jobs with them up to to Dallas we've regrown in downtown San Antonio as this
00:17:25 regrown in downtown San Antonio as this

00:17:25 regrown in downtown San Antonio as this started to happen and this is still
00:17:28 started to happen and this is still

00:17:28 started to happen and this is still where I point folks is they say where
00:17:31 where I point folks is they say where

00:17:31 where I point folks is they say where are the tech jobs in San Antonio I point
00:17:33 are the tech jobs in San Antonio I point

00:17:33 are the tech jobs in San Antonio I point them over to the career page at that
00:17:34 them over to the career page at that

00:17:34 them over to the career page at that port San Antonio mm-hmm so how are you
00:17:38 port San Antonio mm-hmm so how are you

00:17:38 port San Antonio mm-hmm so how are you guys doing on kind of curating that do
00:17:41 guys doing on kind of curating that do

00:17:41 guys doing on kind of curating that do you track any stats around what's posted
00:17:43 you track any stats around what's posted

00:17:43 you track any stats around what's posted out there and how that's been going
00:17:45 out there and how that's been going

00:17:45 out there and how that's been going we do we do we we believe that this year
00:17:48 we do we do we we believe that this year

00:17:48 we do we do we we believe that this year alone we're on track to create over a
00:17:51 alone we're on track to create over a

00:17:51 alone we're on track to create over a thousand new jobs just down at the port
00:17:53 thousand new jobs just down at the port

00:17:53 thousand new jobs just down at the port and that doesn't count all the other
00:17:54 and that doesn't count all the other

00:17:54 and that doesn't count all the other jobs that are being supported throughout
00:17:56 jobs that are being supported throughout

00:17:56 jobs that are being supported throughout the community we have one challenge when
00:17:59 the community we have one challenge when

00:17:59 the community we have one challenge when it comes to tracking jobs because of the
00:18:01 it comes to tracking jobs because of the

00:18:01 it comes to tracking jobs because of the government and the security nature of
00:18:03 government and the security nature of

00:18:03 government and the security nature of this a lot of the companies that come in
00:18:05 this a lot of the companies that come in

00:18:05 this a lot of the companies that come in and a lot of the employers
00:18:06 and a lot of the employers

00:18:06 and a lot of the employers will not release those job figures yeah
00:18:08 will not release those job figures yeah

00:18:08 will not release those job figures yeah so some of it becomes a little bit of
00:18:10 so some of it becomes a little bit of

00:18:10 so some of it becomes a little bit of guesswork some of it becomes
00:18:12 guesswork some of it becomes

00:18:12 guesswork some of it becomes intentionally vague but easily this year
00:18:15 intentionally vague but easily this year

00:18:15 intentionally vague but easily this year will be at over 1,000 new jobs created
00:18:17 will be at over 1,000 new jobs created

00:18:17 will be at over 1,000 new jobs created just on our 1908 campus yeah and if I do
00:18:22 just on our 1908 campus yeah and if I do

00:18:22 just on our 1908 campus yeah and if I do the math you've got project tech opening
00:18:24 the math you've got project tech opening

00:18:24 the math you've got project tech opening up so it's a 90,000 square foot building
00:18:26 up so it's a 90,000 square foot building

00:18:26 up so it's a 90,000 square foot building my rough back of the envelope says if
00:18:29 my rough back of the envelope says if

00:18:29 my rough back of the envelope says if you put 200 square foot per person
00:18:31 you put 200 square foot per person

00:18:31 you put 200 square foot per person you're gonna end up with 450 people and
00:18:34 you're gonna end up with 450 people and

00:18:34 you're gonna end up with 450 people and just in that building right and then
00:18:37 just in that building right and then

00:18:37 just in that building right and then there's all of the stuff out there so
00:18:39 there's all of the stuff out there so

00:18:39 there's all of the stuff out there so for folks listening and learning maybe a
00:18:41 for folks listening and learning maybe a

00:18:41 for folks listening and learning maybe a little bit about the San Antonio
00:18:42 little bit about the San Antonio

00:18:42 little bit about the San Antonio community on the west side of our city
00:18:45 community on the west side of our city

00:18:45 community on the west side of our city there's all sorts of different whether
00:18:48 there's all sorts of different whether

00:18:48 there's all sorts of different whether it's air force out there the 24th and
00:18:50 it's air force out there the 24th and

00:18:50 it's air force out there the 24th and 25th or you can go on Google Maps and
00:18:52 25th or you can go on Google Maps and

00:18:52 25th or you can go on Google Maps and you can google NSA Texas you'll see a
00:18:54 you can google NSA Texas you'll see a

00:18:54 you can google NSA Texas you'll see a building out there we call the NSA on
00:18:57 building out there we call the NSA on

00:18:57 building out there we call the NSA on the phone though and ask them how many
00:18:58 the phone though and ask them how many

00:18:58 the phone though and ask them how many people work at that building and they
00:18:59 people work at that building and they

00:18:59 people work at that building and they will tell you we won't disclose that
00:19:01 will tell you we won't disclose that

00:19:01 will tell you we won't disclose that number right yeah so there's a lot of
00:19:04 number right yeah so there's a lot of

00:19:04 number right yeah so there's a lot of the vagary about how many folks are
00:19:07 the vagary about how many folks are

00:19:07 the vagary about how many folks are working doing what type of work in all
00:19:09 working doing what type of work in all

00:19:09 working doing what type of work in all of these sorts of places you know one of
00:19:10 of these sorts of places you know one of

00:19:10 of these sorts of places you know one of my favorite stories this is about 25 26
00:19:13 my favorite stories this is about 25 26

00:19:13 my favorite stories this is about 25 26 years ago I'm old now living up in DC
00:19:15 years ago I'm old now living up in DC

00:19:15 years ago I'm old now living up in DC the NSA at that time did not officially
00:19:19 the NSA at that time did not officially

00:19:19 the NSA at that time did not officially exist nobody would acknowledge or deny
00:19:21 exist nobody would acknowledge or deny

00:19:21 exist nobody would acknowledge or deny its existence yeah you drove up the deep
00:19:23 its existence yeah you drove up the deep

00:19:23 its existence yeah you drove up the deep BWI Parkway you'd see asides at NSA next
00:19:26 BWI Parkway you'd see asides at NSA next

00:19:26 BWI Parkway you'd see asides at NSA next three exits yeah yeah so that's kind of
00:19:28 three exits yeah yeah so that's kind of

00:19:28 three exits yeah yeah so that's kind of hilarious so if folks wanted to look for
00:19:32 hilarious so if folks wanted to look for

00:19:32 hilarious so if folks wanted to look for careers on that jobs board what website
00:19:34 careers on that jobs board what website

00:19:34 careers on that jobs board what website where can they go for that they go to
00:19:35 where can they go for that they go to

00:19:35 where can they go for that they go to port San Antonio dot u.s. slash jobs I
00:19:39 port San Antonio dot u.s. slash jobs I

00:19:39 port San Antonio dot u.s. slash jobs I like it let's make it easy right there
00:19:41 like it let's make it easy right there

00:19:41 like it let's make it easy right there for the radio so that's good and so this
00:19:43 for the radio so that's good and so this

00:19:43 for the radio so that's good and so this is anything one of the things I can say
00:19:45 is anything one of the things I can say

00:19:45 is anything one of the things I can say about kind of the privatization of the
00:19:48 about kind of the privatization of the

00:19:48 about kind of the privatization of the port that was not complicated whereas
00:19:50 port that was not complicated whereas

00:19:50 port that was not complicated whereas most the things in the military and then
00:19:51 most the things in the military and then

00:19:51 most the things in the military and then the government sector that might have
00:19:53 the government sector that might have

00:19:53 the government sector that might have been 27 slashes in the URL to get there
00:19:56 been 27 slashes in the URL to get there

00:19:56 been 27 slashes in the URL to get there but not with you guys
00:19:58 but not with you guys

00:19:58 but not with you guys nimble agile related to all of this but
00:20:00 nimble agile related to all of this but

00:20:00 nimble agile related to all of this but really making it easy for folks to get
00:20:03 really making it easy for folks to get

00:20:03 really making it easy for folks to get in and integrate and work with the
00:20:05 in and integrate and work with the

00:20:05 in and integrate and work with the public sector out there what we do we do
00:20:07 public sector out there what we do we do

00:20:07 public sector out there what we do we do our best but you know this is something
00:20:08 our best but you know this is something

00:20:08 our best but you know this is something that the government and industry have
00:20:10 that the government and industry have

00:20:10 that the government and industry have really figured out as well that we need
00:20:12 really figured out as well that we need

00:20:12 really figured out as well that we need to get beyond and one of the things
00:20:14 to get beyond and one of the things

00:20:14 to get beyond and one of the things we're excited about is what's going on
00:20:16 we're excited about is what's going on

00:20:16 we're excited about is what's going on in terms of government acquisitions more
00:20:18 in terms of government acquisitions more

00:20:18 in terms of government acquisitions more detail than you need but there is
00:20:20 detail than you need but there is

00:20:20 detail than you need but there is a panel that's been a panel by Congress
00:20:22 a panel that's been a panel by Congress

00:20:22 a panel that's been a panel by Congress called the section 809 panel and what
00:20:24 called the section 809 panel and what

00:20:24 called the section 809 panel and what they're looking at is how can we make
00:20:26 they're looking at is how can we make

00:20:26 they're looking at is how can we make the government a savvy er commercial
00:20:29 the government a savvy er commercial

00:20:29 the government a savvy er commercial customer how can we start using
00:20:30 customer how can we start using

00:20:30 customer how can we start using commercial technologies the challenge
00:20:33 commercial technologies the challenge

00:20:33 commercial technologies the challenge that you've got with the with the
00:20:35 that you've got with the with the

00:20:35 that you've got with the with the government with the military is they're
00:20:37 government with the military is they're

00:20:37 government with the military is they're using acquisition systems that were
00:20:38 using acquisition systems that were

00:20:38 using acquisition systems that were designed in World War two in the Civil
00:20:40 designed in World War two in the Civil

00:20:40 designed in World War two in the Civil War they're outdated and the concept was
00:20:43 War they're outdated and the concept was

00:20:43 War they're outdated and the concept was that the government was going to fund
00:20:44 that the government was going to fund

00:20:44 that the government was going to fund the R&D and then you were going to
00:20:46 the R&D and then you were going to

00:20:46 the R&D and then you were going to commercialize it what's going on now
00:20:48 commercialize it what's going on now

00:20:48 commercialize it what's going on now across the board is the innovation is
00:20:51 across the board is the innovation is

00:20:51 across the board is the innovation is going on in the private sector and it's
00:20:52 going on in the private sector and it's

00:20:52 going on in the private sector and it's moving at such a speed the government
00:20:54 moving at such a speed the government

00:20:54 moving at such a speed the government really needs to jump on and acquire
00:20:57 really needs to jump on and acquire

00:20:57 really needs to jump on and acquire those commercial technologies that gets
00:20:59 those commercial technologies that gets

00:20:59 those commercial technologies that gets us back to this whole project tech
00:21:01 us back to this whole project tech

00:21:01 us back to this whole project tech concept which is you put them right next
00:21:03 concept which is you put them right next

00:21:03 concept which is you put them right next to each other so the government can see
00:21:06 to each other so the government can see

00:21:06 to each other so the government can see what's going on in the private sector
00:21:07 what's going on in the private sector

00:21:07 what's going on in the private sector the private sector has the opportunity
00:21:09 the private sector has the opportunity

00:21:09 the private sector has the opportunity to see what's going on in the government
00:21:10 to see what's going on in the government

00:21:10 to see what's going on in the government and we talk about it as government but
00:21:12 and we talk about it as government but

00:21:12 and we talk about it as government but the bureaucracy at a fortune 25 company
00:21:16 the bureaucracy at a fortune 25 company

00:21:16 the bureaucracy at a fortune 25 company mirrors that exactly the same and it's
00:21:20 mirrors that exactly the same and it's

00:21:20 mirrors that exactly the same and it's the same thing you've got so ours is not
00:21:22 the same thing you've got so ours is not

00:21:22 the same thing you've got so ours is not just a government play it's that private
00:21:25 just a government play it's that private

00:21:25 just a government play it's that private sector industry and then one thing that
00:21:28 sector industry and then one thing that

00:21:28 sector industry and then one thing that we're excited about in San Antonio you
00:21:29 we're excited about in San Antonio you

00:21:29 we're excited about in San Antonio you talk about critical infrastructure we
00:21:32 talk about critical infrastructure we

00:21:32 talk about critical infrastructure we have in CPS energy one of the largest
00:21:35 have in CPS energy one of the largest

00:21:35 have in CPS energy one of the largest municipal owned utilities anywhere on
00:21:38 municipal owned utilities anywhere on

00:21:38 municipal owned utilities anywhere on this planet it does everything from
00:21:41 this planet it does everything from

00:21:41 this planet it does everything from production to distribution to retail it
00:21:44 production to distribution to retail it

00:21:44 production to distribution to retail it does it nuclear it does it a new energy
00:21:46 does it nuclear it does it a new energy

00:21:46 does it nuclear it does it a new energy it doesn't in traditional sources that
00:21:48 it doesn't in traditional sources that

00:21:48 it doesn't in traditional sources that becomes really a nice laboratory for us
00:21:51 becomes really a nice laboratory for us

00:21:51 becomes really a nice laboratory for us to figure out how we're going to secure
00:21:53 to figure out how we're going to secure

00:21:53 to figure out how we're going to secure that critical infrastructure and as we
00:21:55 that critical infrastructure and as we

00:21:55 that critical infrastructure and as we develop those technologies and it won't
00:21:57 develop those technologies and it won't

00:21:57 develop those technologies and it won't be CPS developing those technologies
00:21:58 be CPS developing those technologies

00:21:58 be CPS developing those technologies it'll be the private sector and the
00:22:00 it'll be the private sector and the

00:22:00 it'll be the private sector and the companies out there that opens up an
00:22:03 companies out there that opens up an

00:22:03 companies out there that opens up an entire world market we look at this and
00:22:06 entire world market we look at this and

00:22:06 entire world market we look at this and we say the market for this apply
00:22:08 we say the market for this apply

00:22:08 we say the market for this apply technology is measured in the dozens of
00:22:11 technology is measured in the dozens of

00:22:11 technology is measured in the dozens of trillions it is absolutely huge and San
00:22:14 trillions it is absolutely huge and San

00:22:14 trillions it is absolutely huge and San Antonio doesn't need to be the next
00:22:15 Antonio doesn't need to be the next

00:22:15 Antonio doesn't need to be the next Silicon Valley we need to be the next
00:22:17 Silicon Valley we need to be the next

00:22:17 Silicon Valley we need to be the next San Antonio it's a place where if you're
00:22:19 San Antonio it's a place where if you're

00:22:19 San Antonio it's a place where if you're trying to keep your industry relevant
00:22:21 trying to keep your industry relevant

00:22:21 trying to keep your industry relevant for the next 100 years you're gonna
00:22:23 for the next 100 years you're gonna

00:22:23 for the next 100 years you're gonna figure out how to do that in San Antonio
00:22:25 figure out how to do that in San Antonio

00:22:25 figure out how to do that in San Antonio yeah and you were listening along for
00:22:28 yeah and you were listening along for

00:22:28 yeah and you were listening along for the whole conversation Jim had mentioned
00:22:30 the whole conversation Jim had mentioned

00:22:30 the whole conversation Jim had mentioned some of the the aeronautics platforms
00:22:32 some of the the aeronautics platforms

00:22:32 some of the the aeronautics platforms that are out there so an airframe for a
00:22:33 that are out there so an airframe for a

00:22:33 that are out there so an airframe for a plane
00:22:34 plane

00:22:34 plane may be good for 50 years maybe longer I
00:22:36 may be good for 50 years maybe longer I

00:22:36 may be good for 50 years maybe longer I mean we're still flying b-52s aren't we
00:22:38 mean we're still flying b-52s aren't we

00:22:38 mean we're still flying b-52s aren't we still flying b-52s there DC threes that
00:22:41 still flying b-52s there DC threes that

00:22:41 still flying b-52s there DC threes that are still flying around out there I
00:22:42 are still flying around out there I

00:22:42 are still flying around out there I think there's even at Boeing 247 that's
00:22:45 think there's even at Boeing 247 that's

00:22:45 think there's even at Boeing 247 that's still flying yeah so that the
00:22:46 still flying yeah so that the

00:22:46 still flying yeah so that the acquisition when when he says
00:22:49 acquisition when when he says

00:22:49 acquisition when when he says acquisition that's the government
00:22:50 acquisition that's the government

00:22:50 acquisition that's the government purchasing things so if they were gonna
00:22:51 purchasing things so if they were gonna

00:22:51 purchasing things so if they were gonna purchase a new platform if you're
00:22:53 purchase a new platform if you're

00:22:53 purchase a new platform if you're designing and purchasing a new platform
00:22:54 designing and purchasing a new platform

00:22:54 designing and purchasing a new platform that RFP could go on for five years if
00:22:56 that RFP could go on for five years if

00:22:56 that RFP could go on for five years if it's gonna be in use for 50 or 70 or 80
00:22:59 it's gonna be in use for 50 or 70 or 80

00:22:59 it's gonna be in use for 50 or 70 or 80 years usually and then if you're gonna
00:23:01 years usually and then if you're gonna

00:23:01 years usually and then if you're gonna put new technology into that so that
00:23:02 put new technology into that so that

00:23:02 put new technology into that so that b-52 that's flying around the insides of
00:23:05 b-52 that's flying around the insides of

00:23:05 b-52 that's flying around the insides of it not the same right there's nothing
00:23:06 it not the same right there's nothing

00:23:06 it not the same right there's nothing that's still running all the flight
00:23:09 that's still running all the flight

00:23:09 that's still running all the flight control systems from world war ii now
00:23:11 control systems from world war ii now

00:23:11 control systems from world war ii now they're running updated flight control
00:23:12 they're running updated flight control

00:23:12 they're running updated flight control systems and those type of systems might
00:23:14 systems and those type of systems might

00:23:14 systems and those type of systems might be on a one or two year long RFP and
00:23:16 be on a one or two year long RFP and

00:23:16 be on a one or two year long RFP and they might be in production for 10 to 20
00:23:19 they might be in production for 10 to 20

00:23:19 they might be in production for 10 to 20 years certain systems inside of the
00:23:20 years certain systems inside of the

00:23:20 years certain systems inside of the plane so in that world the acquisitions
00:23:25 plane so in that world the acquisitions

00:23:25 plane so in that world the acquisitions process works okay for them I mean it
00:23:27 process works okay for them I mean it

00:23:27 process works okay for them I mean it might be nice if they could go a little
00:23:29 might be nice if they could go a little

00:23:29 might be nice if they could go a little bit faster but in the cyber world a a
00:23:31 bit faster but in the cyber world a a

00:23:31 bit faster but in the cyber world a a platform might be useful for five years
00:23:34 platform might be useful for five years

00:23:34 platform might be useful for five years and the actual components running on
00:23:38 and the actual components running on

00:23:38 and the actual components running on that platform may only be useful for 90
00:23:40 that platform may only be useful for 90

00:23:40 that platform may only be useful for 90 days and if it takes you one to two
00:23:42 days and if it takes you one to two

00:23:42 days and if it takes you one to two years to buy something that's only good
00:23:43 years to buy something that's only good

00:23:43 years to buy something that's only good for 90 days
00:23:44 for 90 days

00:23:44 for 90 days a year and a half ago by the time you
00:23:47 a year and a half ago by the time you

00:23:47 a year and a half ago by the time you can buy it it's no longer useful that's
00:23:49 can buy it it's no longer useful that's

00:23:49 can buy it it's no longer useful that's absolutely right and one of the things I
00:23:50 absolutely right and one of the things I

00:23:50 absolutely right and one of the things I guess we can talk about that in the next
00:23:52 guess we can talk about that in the next

00:23:52 guess we can talk about that in the next segment yeah is how we're helping to fix
00:23:55 segment yeah is how we're helping to fix

00:23:55 segment yeah is how we're helping to fix that problem so that the government or
00:23:57 that problem so that the government or

00:23:57 that problem so that the government or the private sector can acquire those
00:23:59 the private sector can acquire those

00:23:59 the private sector can acquire those technologies at the speed of cyber yeah
00:24:02 technologies at the speed of cyber yeah

00:24:02 technologies at the speed of cyber yeah and this is changing not just across in
00:24:06 and this is changing not just across in

00:24:06 and this is changing not just across in the the aeronautics for the Air Force on
00:24:08 the the aeronautics for the Air Force on

00:24:08 the the aeronautics for the Air Force on their planes or the private sector on
00:24:10 their planes or the private sector on

00:24:10 their planes or the private sector on their airplanes the speed at which new
00:24:13 their airplanes the speed at which new

00:24:13 their airplanes the speed at which new technology needs to be able to be rolled
00:24:15 technology needs to be able to be rolled

00:24:15 technology needs to be able to be rolled into the utility created the water into
00:24:19 into the utility created the water into

00:24:19 into the utility created the water into healthcare systems and all sorts of
00:24:22 healthcare systems and all sorts of

00:24:22 healthcare systems and all sorts of areas where software and communications
00:24:25 areas where software and communications

00:24:25 areas where software and communications protocols are now embedded that the
00:24:28 protocols are now embedded that the

00:24:28 protocols are now embedded that the speed matters everywhere there and if we
00:24:30 speed matters everywhere there and if we

00:24:30 speed matters everywhere there and if we we don't get the speed into some of
00:24:32 we don't get the speed into some of

00:24:32 we don't get the speed into some of those systems we're gonna see if you
00:24:34 those systems we're gonna see if you

00:24:34 those systems we're gonna see if you think you've seen tragedies now it's
00:24:36 think you've seen tragedies now it's

00:24:36 think you've seen tragedies now it's gonna get much bigger so we're gonna
00:24:38 gonna get much bigger so we're gonna

00:24:38 gonna get much bigger so we're gonna take a quick break here at the bottom of
00:24:40 take a quick break here at the bottom of

00:24:40 take a quick break here at the bottom of the hour for news traffic and weather
00:24:42 the hour for news traffic and weather

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00:24:47 putting this up on the internet on Tuesday July the 10th at WWDC bertok
00:24:51 Tuesday July the 10th at WWDC bertok

00:24:51 Tuesday July the 10th at WWDC bertok radio calm welcome back to cyber talk
00:25:07 radio calm welcome back to cyber talk

00:25:07 radio calm welcome back to cyber talk radio
00:25:08 radio

00:25:08 radio I'm your host Brett PI at a 20-year
00:25:10 I'm your host Brett PI at a 20-year

00:25:10 I'm your host Brett PI at a 20-year internet security veteran I'm joined
00:25:12 internet security veteran I'm joined

00:25:12 internet security veteran I'm joined this week by more than a 20 year
00:25:15 this week by more than a 20 year

00:25:15 this week by more than a 20 year Aeronautics and a becoming cybersecurity
00:25:17 Aeronautics and a becoming cybersecurity

00:25:17 Aeronautics and a becoming cybersecurity industry veteran Jim / Spock who is the
00:25:21 industry veteran Jim / Spock who is the

00:25:21 industry veteran Jim / Spock who is the interim CEO of port San Antonio and a
00:25:23 interim CEO of port San Antonio and a

00:25:23 interim CEO of port San Antonio and a port here that does not mean something
00:25:25 port here that does not mean something

00:25:25 port here that does not mean something you sail boats up to if you want to
00:25:28 you sail boats up to if you want to

00:25:28 you sail boats up to if you want to learn more about the port you can go to
00:25:29 learn more about the port you can go to

00:25:29 learn more about the port you can go to port san antonio dot US you can just put
00:25:33 port san antonio dot US you can just put

00:25:33 port san antonio dot US you can just put port san antonio into your favorite
00:25:35 port san antonio into your favorite

00:25:35 port san antonio into your favorite search engine and you'll find all sorts
00:25:37 search engine and you'll find all sorts

00:25:37 search engine and you'll find all sorts of things about it jim's also been on
00:25:39 of things about it jim's also been on

00:25:39 of things about it jim's also been on cyber talk radio with us in the past so
00:25:41 cyber talk radio with us in the past so

00:25:41 cyber talk radio with us in the past so if you wanted to listen to him talk to
00:25:44 if you wanted to listen to him talk to

00:25:44 if you wanted to listen to him talk to know more about the background the
00:25:45 know more about the background the

00:25:45 know more about the background the history and some of the the other
00:25:46 history and some of the the other

00:25:46 history and some of the the other aspects look us up on itunes or pocket
00:25:50 aspects look us up on itunes or pocket

00:25:50 aspects look us up on itunes or pocket caster on our website at wwlp.com and
00:25:53 caster on our website at wwlp.com and

00:25:53 caster on our website at wwlp.com and you will be able to learn all about the
00:25:56 you will be able to learn all about the

00:25:56 you will be able to learn all about the port and what's going on there this was
00:25:58 port and what's going on there this was

00:25:58 port and what's going on there this was a almost 18 months ago now that Jim
00:26:00 a almost 18 months ago now that Jim

00:26:00 a almost 18 months ago now that Jim joined us early on in our cyber talk
00:26:02 joined us early on in our cyber talk

00:26:02 joined us early on in our cyber talk radio history and since then now there's
00:26:06 radio history and since then now there's

00:26:06 radio history and since then now there's a project tak which I think was in the
00:26:08 a project tak which I think was in the

00:26:08 a project tak which I think was in the idea phase back then now it's it's real
00:26:11 idea phase back then now it's it's real

00:26:11 idea phase back then now it's it's real it's opened I had the honor of going
00:26:14 it's opened I had the honor of going

00:26:14 it's opened I had the honor of going over to that grand opening ceremony here
00:26:16 over to that grand opening ceremony here

00:26:16 over to that grand opening ceremony here at the end of May was a great day a
00:26:18 at the end of May was a great day a

00:26:18 at the end of May was a great day a great event sent some nice pictures up
00:26:21 great event sent some nice pictures up

00:26:21 great event sent some nice pictures up so if you look at my own personal
00:26:22 so if you look at my own personal

00:26:22 so if you look at my own personal Twitter be PI it you can see some photos
00:26:26 Twitter be PI it you can see some photos

00:26:26 Twitter be PI it you can see some photos I took there out the windows on that
00:26:28 I took there out the windows on that

00:26:28 I took there out the windows on that third floor of that building back to
00:26:29 third floor of that building back to

00:26:29 third floor of that building back to downtown all seven minutes right roughly
00:26:33 downtown all seven minutes right roughly

00:26:33 downtown all seven minutes right roughly there abouts you're about seven minutes
00:26:34 there abouts you're about seven minutes

00:26:34 there abouts you're about seven minutes from downtown so people like port San
00:26:36 from downtown so people like port San

00:26:36 from downtown so people like port San Antonio is in the middle of nowhere well
00:26:38 Antonio is in the middle of nowhere well

00:26:38 Antonio is in the middle of nowhere well no I mean it's seven minutes away it's
00:26:40 no I mean it's seven minutes away it's

00:26:40 no I mean it's seven minutes away it's closer than the AIESEC the 1604 and 281
00:26:45 closer than the AIESEC the 1604 and 281

00:26:45 closer than the AIESEC the 1604 and 281 interchange or even the i-10 and 1604
00:26:47 interchange or even the i-10 and 1604

00:26:47 interchange or even the i-10 and 1604 interchange from downtown
00:26:48 interchange from downtown

00:26:48 interchange from downtown that's absolutely right in fact we come
00:26:50 that's absolutely right in fact we come

00:26:50 that's absolutely right in fact we come downtown to have lunch quite frequently
00:26:52 downtown to have lunch quite frequently

00:26:52 downtown to have lunch quite frequently so before we we took a break there at
00:26:55 so before we we took a break there at

00:26:55 so before we we took a break there at the bottom the r4 news trafficking
00:26:56 the bottom the r4 news trafficking

00:26:56 the bottom the r4 news trafficking weather
00:26:56 weather

00:26:56 weather a little bit about procurement and the
00:26:58 a little bit about procurement and the

00:26:58 a little bit about procurement and the speeds of some of this we've talked with
00:27:00 speeds of some of this we've talked with

00:27:00 speeds of some of this we've talked with rich Valadez and some others about this
00:27:02 rich Valadez and some others about this

00:27:02 rich Valadez and some others about this concept of a cyber proving ground out
00:27:04 concept of a cyber proving ground out

00:27:04 concept of a cyber proving ground out there and some of those things how how
00:27:06 there and some of those things how how

00:27:06 there and some of those things how how is that coming along to help everybody
00:27:09 is that coming along to help everybody

00:27:09 is that coming along to help everybody speed up on the the acquisitions to
00:27:12 speed up on the the acquisitions to

00:27:12 speed up on the the acquisitions to procurement side of things I don't think
00:27:14 procurement side of things I don't think

00:27:14 procurement side of things I don't think it's coming along quite as quickly as
00:27:15 it's coming along quite as quickly as

00:27:15 it's coming along quite as quickly as everybody hoped it would because you
00:27:17 everybody hoped it would because you

00:27:17 everybody hoped it would because you still bump up against some of the same
00:27:19 still bump up against some of the same

00:27:19 still bump up against some of the same challenges that you've always had in
00:27:21 challenges that you've always had in

00:27:21 challenges that you've always had in government acquisition how do you get
00:27:23 government acquisition how do you get

00:27:23 government acquisition how do you get into that cyber proving ground who can
00:27:25 into that cyber proving ground who can

00:27:25 into that cyber proving ground who can get into that cyber proving ground what
00:27:27 get into that cyber proving ground what

00:27:27 get into that cyber proving ground what technical readiness level do you have to
00:27:29 technical readiness level do you have to

00:27:29 technical readiness level do you have to be at before you can get into the cyber
00:27:30 be at before you can get into the cyber

00:27:30 be at before you can get into the cyber proving ground so we're looking at doing
00:27:33 proving ground so we're looking at doing

00:27:33 proving ground so we're looking at doing is something a little bit more creative
00:27:35 is something a little bit more creative

00:27:35 is something a little bit more creative and something we think will show off a
00:27:37 and something we think will show off a

00:27:37 and something we think will show off a lot more technologies and we use as the
00:27:39 lot more technologies and we use as the

00:27:39 lot more technologies and we use as the base of that the San Antonio Museum of
00:27:42 base of that the San Antonio Museum of

00:27:42 base of that the San Antonio Museum of Science and Technology Sam set there
00:27:45 Science and Technology Sam set there

00:27:45 Science and Technology Sam set there right now you have the history of
00:27:47 right now you have the history of

00:27:47 right now you have the history of Technology and it's really a wonderful
00:27:49 Technology and it's really a wonderful

00:27:49 Technology and it's really a wonderful exhibit to go and see how we got to
00:27:51 exhibit to go and see how we got to

00:27:51 exhibit to go and see how we got to today the next step is going to be
00:27:54 today the next step is going to be

00:27:54 today the next step is going to be bringing in the current technologies
00:27:56 bringing in the current technologies

00:27:56 bringing in the current technologies that are being developed here in San
00:27:57 that are being developed here in San

00:27:57 that are being developed here in San Antonio and if you have a museum that's
00:28:00 Antonio and if you have a museum that's

00:28:00 Antonio and if you have a museum that's open to the public where people can see
00:28:02 open to the public where people can see

00:28:02 open to the public where people can see what's being developed people can get
00:28:04 what's being developed people can get

00:28:04 what's being developed people can get hands-on with what's being developed
00:28:05 hands-on with what's being developed

00:28:05 hands-on with what's being developed then for those who are looking to
00:28:07 then for those who are looking to

00:28:07 then for those who are looking to acquire those technologies whether
00:28:09 acquire those technologies whether

00:28:09 acquire those technologies whether they're government sector or private
00:28:10 they're government sector or private

00:28:10 they're government sector or private sector it is a lot easier to figure out
00:28:13 sector it is a lot easier to figure out

00:28:13 sector it is a lot easier to figure out how can I use that technology in my
00:28:16 how can I use that technology in my

00:28:16 how can I use that technology in my business than trying to think about
00:28:18 business than trying to think about

00:28:18 business than trying to think about where your hole is think about what your
00:28:20 where your hole is think about what your

00:28:20 where your hole is think about what your gap is and how you're gonna fill that
00:28:22 gap is and how you're gonna fill that

00:28:22 gap is and how you're gonna fill that gap and then turn around write an RFP
00:28:24 gap and then turn around write an RFP

00:28:24 gap and then turn around write an RFP for it gets back to that example we had
00:28:26 for it gets back to that example we had

00:28:26 for it gets back to that example we had talking to the airline if you know that
00:28:29 talking to the airline if you know that

00:28:29 talking to the airline if you know that you have a Cypress Cypress all've that
00:28:33 you have a Cypress Cypress all've that

00:28:33 you have a Cypress Cypress all've that cyber problem what the state of most
00:28:36 cyber problem what the state of most

00:28:36 cyber problem what the state of most industry is is they think they have a
00:28:39 industry is is they think they have a

00:28:39 industry is is they think they have a cyber vulnerability they don't know what
00:28:41 cyber vulnerability they don't know what

00:28:41 cyber vulnerability they don't know what it is where it is how to define it but
00:28:44 it is where it is how to define it but

00:28:44 it is where it is how to define it but going out and seeing what's in the
00:28:46 going out and seeing what's in the

00:28:46 going out and seeing what's in the market seeing what people are doing
00:28:47 market seeing what people are doing

00:28:47 market seeing what people are doing that's the best way to come in and
00:28:49 that's the best way to come in and

00:28:49 that's the best way to come in and figure out how you gonna fill those
00:28:50 figure out how you gonna fill those

00:28:50 figure out how you gonna fill those capability gaps and then with people
00:28:52 capability gaps and then with people

00:28:52 capability gaps and then with people like Dale blazing drew placet and David
00:28:55 like Dale blazing drew placet and David

00:28:55 like Dale blazing drew placet and David Monroe and doing the hard side of that
00:28:58 Monroe and doing the hard side of that

00:28:58 Monroe and doing the hard side of that as well the maker space that they're
00:28:59 as well the maker space that they're

00:28:59 as well the maker space that they're building up down there the ability to
00:29:01 building up down there the ability to

00:29:01 building up down there the ability to actually prototype something the hard
00:29:03 actually prototype something the hard

00:29:03 actually prototype something the hard part is going to be I'm pretty good at
00:29:06 part is going to be I'm pretty good at

00:29:06 part is going to be I'm pretty good at the software systems of it the software
00:29:09 the software systems of it the software

00:29:09 the software systems of it the software system side is probably the
00:29:10 system side is probably the

00:29:10 system side is probably the strongest part of this but it's just
00:29:12 strongest part of this but it's just

00:29:12 strongest part of this but it's just like if you're trying to break into a
00:29:13 like if you're trying to break into a

00:29:13 like if you're trying to break into a house you're not gonna go through that
00:29:14 house you're not gonna go through that

00:29:14 house you're not gonna go through that steel reinforced front door you're gonna
00:29:17 steel reinforced front door you're gonna

00:29:17 steel reinforced front door you're gonna go through the beautiful side light
00:29:18 go through the beautiful side light

00:29:18 go through the beautiful side light right next to it yeah so figure out
00:29:20 right next to it yeah so figure out

00:29:20 right next to it yeah so figure out where the side light is and how you can
00:29:22 where the side light is and how you can

00:29:22 where the side light is and how you can harden that side light but most
00:29:25 harden that side light but most

00:29:25 harden that side light but most important from the business perspective
00:29:26 important from the business perspective

00:29:26 important from the business perspective you can't do that in such a way where
00:29:29 you can't do that in such a way where

00:29:29 you can't do that in such a way where you come in and you just armor the side
00:29:31 you come in and you just armor the side

00:29:31 you come in and you just armor the side light you know that that's gonna ruin
00:29:33 light you know that that's gonna ruin

00:29:33 light you know that that's gonna ruin the business it's gonna ruin the look of
00:29:34 the business it's gonna ruin the look of

00:29:34 the business it's gonna ruin the look of what you're doing
00:29:35 what you're doing

00:29:35 what you're doing yeah that's why I've the you've got the
00:29:37 yeah that's why I've the you've got the

00:29:37 yeah that's why I've the you've got the side light on the front door see right
00:29:38 side light on the front door see right

00:29:38 side light on the front door see right light into the entryway if you you just
00:29:41 light into the entryway if you you just

00:29:41 light into the entryway if you you just put steel on that too then you've got a
00:29:42 put steel on that too then you've got a

00:29:42 put steel on that too then you've got a dark entryway and you've got a bat cave
00:29:44 dark entryway and you've got a bat cave

00:29:44 dark entryway and you've got a bat cave not everyone wants to live in the bat
00:29:46 not everyone wants to live in the bat

00:29:46 not everyone wants to live in the bat cave and isn't that really the challenge
00:29:48 cave and isn't that really the challenge

00:29:48 cave and isn't that really the challenge of cybersecurity I mean the easiest way
00:29:49 of cybersecurity I mean the easiest way

00:29:49 of cybersecurity I mean the easiest way to do this is have everything on a
00:29:51 to do this is have everything on a

00:29:51 to do this is have everything on a computer that's accessible only
00:29:53 computer that's accessible only

00:29:53 computer that's accessible only physically in that computer that's
00:29:55 physically in that computer that's

00:29:55 physically in that computer that's locked up in a vault and surrounded by
00:29:57 locked up in a vault and surrounded by

00:29:57 locked up in a vault and surrounded by people with machine guns
00:29:58 people with machine guns

00:29:58 people with machine guns yeah well that a great concept but how
00:30:00 yeah well that a great concept but how

00:30:00 yeah well that a great concept but how you gonna run a business that way no no
00:30:02 you gonna run a business that way no no

00:30:02 you gonna run a business that way no no yeah it's lots of stuff like you you
00:30:04 yeah it's lots of stuff like you you

00:30:04 yeah it's lots of stuff like you you look at the operating systems a lot of
00:30:07 look at the operating systems a lot of

00:30:07 look at the operating systems a lot of the naval ships I'm running the most
00:30:10 the naval ships I'm running the most

00:30:10 the naval ships I'm running the most current operating systems this is not a
00:30:11 current operating systems this is not a

00:30:11 current operating systems this is not a classified stuff but I mean they're
00:30:13 classified stuff but I mean they're

00:30:13 classified stuff but I mean they're running operating systems that are 15
00:30:15 running operating systems that are 15

00:30:15 running operating systems that are 15 and 20 years old on Navy boats but not
00:30:17 and 20 years old on Navy boats but not

00:30:17 and 20 years old on Navy boats but not the easiest thing for a hacker to get
00:30:19 the easiest thing for a hacker to get

00:30:20 the easiest thing for a hacker to get access to the operating system on the
00:30:21 access to the operating system on the

00:30:21 access to the operating system on the navy ship all right
00:30:22 navy ship all right

00:30:22 navy ship all right well and you've seen that in the
00:30:24 well and you've seen that in the

00:30:24 well and you've seen that in the commercial side you know there's the
00:30:25 commercial side you know there's the

00:30:25 commercial side you know there's the famous story about the smart fish tank
00:30:27 famous story about the smart fish tank

00:30:27 famous story about the smart fish tank out there in Nevada yeah where you hack
00:30:30 out there in Nevada yeah where you hack

00:30:30 out there in Nevada yeah where you hack through that and you get the casinos
00:30:31 through that and you get the casinos

00:30:31 through that and you get the casinos financial data you can shut down a
00:30:33 financial data you can shut down a

00:30:33 financial data you can shut down a factory through that connected coffee
00:30:35 factory through that connected coffee

00:30:35 factory through that connected coffee pot the weaknesses are out there but
00:30:37 pot the weaknesses are out there but

00:30:37 pot the weaknesses are out there but modeling those weaknesses and figuring
00:30:39 modeling those weaknesses and figuring

00:30:39 modeling those weaknesses and figuring out how you're going to secure them
00:30:41 out how you're going to secure them

00:30:41 out how you're going to secure them that's that next challenge and that's
00:30:42 that's that next challenge and that's

00:30:42 that's that next challenge and that's what project tech really means it's not
00:30:45 what project tech really means it's not

00:30:45 what project tech really means it's not just a port San Antonio building it's
00:30:48 just a port San Antonio building it's

00:30:48 just a port San Antonio building it's not even just a port San Antonio vision
00:30:50 not even just a port San Antonio vision

00:30:50 not even just a port San Antonio vision it's part of this cyber corridor how are
00:30:52 it's part of this cyber corridor how are

00:30:52 it's part of this cyber corridor how are we going to connect up San Antonio to
00:30:55 we going to connect up San Antonio to

00:30:55 we going to connect up San Antonio to the world yeah as so thinking just
00:30:58 the world yeah as so thinking just

00:30:58 the world yeah as so thinking just outside the port in between the port
00:31:00 outside the port in between the port

00:31:00 outside the port in between the port here in downtown for those that have not
00:31:02 here in downtown for those that have not

00:31:02 here in downtown for those that have not been listening to the news and reading
00:31:06 been listening to the news and reading

00:31:06 been listening to the news and reading and following along the University of
00:31:09 and following along the University of

00:31:09 and following along the University of Texas San Antonio has been talking about
00:31:11 Texas San Antonio has been talking about

00:31:11 Texas San Antonio has been talking about a major expansion of their downtown
00:31:12 a major expansion of their downtown

00:31:12 a major expansion of their downtown campus to include some research on the
00:31:17 campus to include some research on the

00:31:17 campus to include some research on the cyber side there's some research
00:31:18 cyber side there's some research

00:31:18 cyber side there's some research collaboration there so I would encourage
00:31:20 collaboration there so I would encourage

00:31:20 collaboration there so I would encourage you to if you're interested in this to
00:31:22 you to if you're interested in this to

00:31:22 you to if you're interested in this to go out look at some of the things that
00:31:23 go out look at some of the things that

00:31:23 go out look at some of the things that they've proposed
00:31:24 they've proposed

00:31:24 they've proposed plan for that and I think as you see
00:31:28 plan for that and I think as you see

00:31:28 plan for that and I think as you see those sorts of things come online
00:31:29 those sorts of things come online

00:31:29 those sorts of things come online ideally here over the next five years
00:31:32 ideally here over the next five years

00:31:32 ideally here over the next five years it's really gonna feel like one big
00:31:34 it's really gonna feel like one big

00:31:34 it's really gonna feel like one big connected space between what's going on
00:31:36 connected space between what's going on

00:31:36 connected space between what's going on downtown the UTSA campus there and then
00:31:39 downtown the UTSA campus there and then

00:31:39 downtown the UTSA campus there and then on over to the port is all going to be
00:31:41 on over to the port is all going to be

00:31:41 on over to the port is all going to be within a blur together
00:31:43 within a blur together

00:31:43 within a blur together that's absolutely right yeah so I I know
00:31:48 that's absolutely right yeah so I I know

00:31:48 that's absolutely right yeah so I I know you just mentioned Sam sadden and you're
00:31:50 you just mentioned Sam sadden and you're

00:31:50 you just mentioned Sam sadden and you're very familiar with it
00:31:52 very familiar with it

00:31:52 very familiar with it most of our listening audience may not
00:31:54 most of our listening audience may not

00:31:54 most of our listening audience may not be and if you're a schoolteacher out
00:31:55 be and if you're a schoolteacher out

00:31:55 be and if you're a schoolteacher out there if you're if you're a kid on a
00:31:56 there if you're if you're a kid on a

00:31:56 there if you're if you're a kid on a CyberPatriot team and you're hearing
00:31:58 CyberPatriot team and you're hearing

00:31:58 CyberPatriot team and you're hearing this for the first time we have a Museum
00:32:00 this for the first time we have a Museum

00:32:00 this for the first time we have a Museum of Science and Technology in San Antonio
00:32:03 of Science and Technology in San Antonio

00:32:03 of Science and Technology in San Antonio share a little bit more for the audience
00:32:05 share a little bit more for the audience

00:32:05 share a little bit more for the audience about it how did that come about out
00:32:08 about it how did that come about out

00:32:08 about it how did that come about out there on the port well it came about as
00:32:10 there on the port well it came about as

00:32:10 there on the port well it came about as a passion project of its founder David
00:32:13 a passion project of its founder David

00:32:13 a passion project of its founder David Monroe and you know his claim to fame is
00:32:15 Monroe and you know his claim to fame is

00:32:15 Monroe and you know his claim to fame is he invented the cell phone camera but
00:32:17 he invented the cell phone camera but

00:32:17 he invented the cell phone camera but he's done so much more than that over
00:32:19 he's done so much more than that over

00:32:19 he's done so much more than that over the years you look at a lot of
00:32:20 the years you look at a lot of

00:32:20 the years you look at a lot of technologies in the law enforcement side
00:32:24 technologies in the law enforcement side

00:32:24 technologies in the law enforcement side the military side the healthcare side he
00:32:26 the military side the healthcare side he

00:32:26 the military side the healthcare side he was behind that particularly if it was
00:32:28 was behind that particularly if it was

00:32:28 was behind that particularly if it was image capture encryption transmission D
00:32:31 image capture encryption transmission D

00:32:31 image capture encryption transmission D encryption what he wanted to do was open
00:32:35 encryption what he wanted to do was open

00:32:35 encryption what he wanted to do was open up a pathway for young people to really
00:32:38 up a pathway for young people to really

00:32:38 up a pathway for young people to really get interested in technology and use
00:32:41 get interested in technology and use

00:32:41 get interested in technology and use that as a springboard to their future
00:32:44 that as a springboard to their future

00:32:44 that as a springboard to their future he had a campus up across the street
00:32:46 he had a campus up across the street

00:32:46 he had a campus up across the street from the Dominion we encouraged him to
00:32:49 from the Dominion we encouraged him to

00:32:49 from the Dominion we encouraged him to move on down to the port we showed him a
00:32:50 move on down to the port we showed him a

00:32:50 move on down to the port we showed him a little bit about what we think the
00:32:52 little bit about what we think the

00:32:52 little bit about what we think the vision is how we're looking to apply
00:32:53 vision is how we're looking to apply

00:32:53 vision is how we're looking to apply those technologies and we sold him on it
00:32:56 those technologies and we sold him on it

00:32:56 those technologies and we sold him on it he was willing to take a flier and come
00:32:58 he was willing to take a flier and come

00:32:58 he was willing to take a flier and come down and open that museum in the almost
00:33:01 down and open that museum in the almost

00:33:01 down and open that museum in the almost a year that he's been down there
00:33:03 a year that he's been down there

00:33:03 a year that he's been down there he's got systemic the geek bucks people
00:33:05 he's got systemic the geek bucks people

00:33:05 he's got systemic the geek bucks people to move in with him the cyber Texas
00:33:07 to move in with him the cyber Texas

00:33:07 to move in with him the cyber Texas foundation there is a meet-up that takes
00:33:10 foundation there is a meet-up that takes

00:33:10 foundation there is a meet-up that takes place down there and he's expanding this
00:33:13 place down there and he's expanding this

00:33:13 place down there and he's expanding this makerspace that he has and and we're
00:33:15 makerspace that he has and and we're

00:33:15 makerspace that he has and and we're really really excited about that for two
00:33:17 really really excited about that for two

00:33:17 really really excited about that for two reasons one the ability to take people
00:33:20 reasons one the ability to take people

00:33:20 reasons one the ability to take people in and show them how you can actually
00:33:22 in and show them how you can actually

00:33:22 in and show them how you can actually work on these machines how you can
00:33:24 work on these machines how you can

00:33:24 work on these machines how you can actually prototype something and then to
00:33:27 actually prototype something and then to

00:33:27 actually prototype something and then to burn vendors in town for people who are
00:33:29 burn vendors in town for people who are

00:33:29 burn vendors in town for people who are innovative and they're looking for ways
00:33:31 innovative and they're looking for ways

00:33:31 innovative and they're looking for ways how can I actually prototype something
00:33:33 how can I actually prototype something

00:33:33 how can I actually prototype something up so that I can show that this can be
00:33:35 up so that I can show that this can be

00:33:35 up so that I can show that this can be used in energy generation
00:33:38 used in energy generation

00:33:38 used in energy generation can be used in health care this can be
00:33:40 can be used in health care this can be

00:33:40 can be used in health care this can be used in aviation it's an opportunity to
00:33:42 used in aviation it's an opportunity to

00:33:42 used in aviation it's an opportunity to go down there and have access to tooling
00:33:44 go down there and have access to tooling

00:33:44 go down there and have access to tooling and equipment that you normally just
00:33:46 and equipment that you normally just

00:33:46 and equipment that you normally just wouldn't have access to yeah and this is
00:33:48 wouldn't have access to yeah and this is

00:33:48 wouldn't have access to yeah and this is all the way from super high-resolution
00:33:51 all the way from super high-resolution

00:33:51 all the way from super high-resolution 3d printers and so just like your paper
00:33:54 3d printers and so just like your paper

00:33:54 3d printers and so just like your paper printer or laser printer you've got the
00:33:55 printer or laser printer you've got the

00:33:56 printer or laser printer you've got the different dpi on those 3d printers
00:33:58 different dpi on those 3d printers

00:33:58 different dpi on those 3d printers there's kind of the consumer grade one
00:34:00 there's kind of the consumer grade one

00:34:00 there's kind of the consumer grade one where you can make little plastic army
00:34:02 where you can make little plastic army

00:34:02 where you can make little plastic army men toys out of them but then there's
00:34:04 men toys out of them but then there's

00:34:04 men toys out of them but then there's also the industrial ones like they have
00:34:05 also the industrial ones like they have

00:34:05 also the industrial ones like they have out there at Sam sat where you can make
00:34:07 out there at Sam sat where you can make

00:34:08 out there at Sam sat where you can make super high precision high quality high
00:34:10 super high precision high quality high

00:34:10 super high precision high quality high stress parts that you could potentially
00:34:13 stress parts that you could potentially

00:34:13 stress parts that you could potentially go put in an airplane and actually test
00:34:15 go put in an airplane and actually test

00:34:15 go put in an airplane and actually test out and then there's also CNC machines
00:34:19 out and then there's also CNC machines

00:34:19 out and then there's also CNC machines where you can machine metals all of
00:34:22 where you can machine metals all of

00:34:22 where you can machine metals all of those that are all robotic and
00:34:24 those that are all robotic and

00:34:24 those that are all robotic and programmatic and programmable so those
00:34:27 programmatic and programmable so those

00:34:27 programmatic and programmable so those things are all out at that makerspace so
00:34:29 things are all out at that makerspace so

00:34:29 things are all out at that makerspace so this is not just a spot with a couple of
00:34:31 this is not just a spot with a couple of

00:34:31 this is not just a spot with a couple of computers and a couple of cheap consumer
00:34:34 computers and a couple of cheap consumer

00:34:34 computers and a couple of cheap consumer 3d printers
00:34:35 3d printers

00:34:35 3d printers know that it's really exciting and the
00:34:37 know that it's really exciting and the

00:34:37 know that it's really exciting and the stuff that's in the museum in the
00:34:39 stuff that's in the museum in the

00:34:39 stuff that's in the museum in the display center really is world quality
00:34:41 display center really is world quality

00:34:41 display center really is world quality it's stuff that the Smithsonian wants to
00:34:44 it's stuff that the Smithsonian wants to

00:34:44 it's stuff that the Smithsonian wants to get their hands on and not just
00:34:45 get their hands on and not just

00:34:45 get their hands on and not just figuratively literally wants to get
00:34:47 figuratively literally wants to get

00:34:47 figuratively literally wants to get their hands on David and the folks at
00:34:50 their hands on David and the folks at

00:34:50 their hands on David and the folks at Sam set and systemic in the past since
00:34:52 Sam set and systemic in the past since

00:34:52 Sam set and systemic in the past since January have brought almost a thousand
00:34:55 January have brought almost a thousand

00:34:55 January have brought almost a thousand young people through that museum on
00:34:57 young people through that museum on

00:34:57 young people through that museum on programs run in coordination with
00:34:59 programs run in coordination with

00:34:59 programs run in coordination with systemic this summer they're running
00:35:02 systemic this summer they're running

00:35:02 systemic this summer they're running summer camps weekdays during the summer
00:35:04 summer camps weekdays during the summer

00:35:04 summer camps weekdays during the summer they're also open every Saturday from 10
00:35:07 they're also open every Saturday from 10

00:35:07 they're also open every Saturday from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. and we really encourage
00:35:09 a.m. to 5 p.m. and we really encourage

00:35:09 a.m. to 5 p.m. and we really encourage anybody listening this come on out and
00:35:11 anybody listening this come on out and

00:35:11 anybody listening this come on out and see it if you haven't seen it before and
00:35:13 see it if you haven't seen it before and

00:35:13 see it if you haven't seen it before and this is where we want to go you know we
00:35:15 this is where we want to go you know we

00:35:15 this is where we want to go you know we talked about that procurement issue it
00:35:17 talked about that procurement issue it

00:35:17 talked about that procurement issue it is opportunities to show people what is
00:35:20 is opportunities to show people what is

00:35:20 is opportunities to show people what is being developed that lead to those
00:35:22 being developed that lead to those

00:35:22 being developed that lead to those opportunities of how are you going to
00:35:24 opportunities of how are you going to

00:35:24 opportunities of how are you going to apply it you can't disrupt an industry
00:35:27 apply it you can't disrupt an industry

00:35:27 apply it you can't disrupt an industry unless you understand an industry and
00:35:29 unless you understand an industry and

00:35:29 unless you understand an industry and there's no better way to get in front of
00:35:31 there's no better way to get in front of

00:35:31 there's no better way to get in front of the people who can actually buy your
00:35:32 the people who can actually buy your

00:35:32 the people who can actually buy your technology then going out there and
00:35:35 technology then going out there and

00:35:35 technology then going out there and showing what you're doing yeah and so
00:35:37 showing what you're doing yeah and so

00:35:37 showing what you're doing yeah and so the you know what the price is for the
00:35:40 the you know what the price is for the

00:35:40 the you know what the price is for the Saturday tours there is no price for the
00:35:42 Saturday tours there is no price for the

00:35:42 Saturday tours there is no price for the second tour it's show up 10:00 to 5:00
00:35:44 second tour it's show up 10:00 to 5:00

00:35:44 second tour it's show up 10:00 to 5:00 show up 10 to 5:00 it's free so if yeah
00:35:46 show up 10 to 5:00 it's free so if yeah

00:35:46 show up 10 to 5:00 it's free so if yeah you're looking at a way to get your kids
00:35:49 you're looking at a way to get your kids

00:35:49 you're looking at a way to get your kids some access exposed
00:35:51 some access exposed

00:35:51 some access exposed technology but you're running a little
00:35:54 technology but you're running a little

00:35:54 technology but you're running a little bit short on the budget this month it's
00:35:56 bit short on the budget this month it's

00:35:56 bit short on the budget this month it's just gonna cost you the gas money to get
00:35:57 just gonna cost you the gas money to get

00:35:57 just gonna cost you the gas money to get yourself out there and back and that'll
00:35:59 yourself out there and back and that'll

00:35:59 yourself out there and back and that'll be it so go over check it out it really
00:36:02 be it so go over check it out it really

00:36:02 be it so go over check it out it really is a great museum new to the area can
00:36:06 is a great museum new to the area can

00:36:06 is a great museum new to the area can use your support and donations a little
00:36:07 use your support and donations a little

00:36:07 use your support and donations a little bit David will probably appreciate maybe
00:36:10 bit David will probably appreciate maybe

00:36:10 bit David will probably appreciate maybe even your time and energy if you would
00:36:12 even your time and energy if you would

00:36:12 even your time and energy if you would be willing to do that that to him more
00:36:14 be willing to do that that to him more

00:36:14 be willing to do that that to him more so than the money I think they'll take
00:36:15 so than the money I think they'll take

00:36:15 so than the money I think they'll take money as well but your time and energy
00:36:17 money as well but your time and energy

00:36:17 money as well but your time and energy like that drew and Dale getting out
00:36:19 like that drew and Dale getting out

00:36:19 like that drew and Dale getting out there and getting involved and and
00:36:22 there and getting involved and and

00:36:22 there and getting involved and and others if you have a desire in this
00:36:24 others if you have a desire in this

00:36:24 others if you have a desire in this space to help kids to help tell the
00:36:26 space to help kids to help tell the

00:36:26 space to help kids to help tell the technology story to get more folks
00:36:27 technology story to get more folks

00:36:27 technology story to get more folks interested in this and to tell the
00:36:29 interested in this and to tell the

00:36:29 interested in this and to tell the history of everything that's going on
00:36:31 history of everything that's going on

00:36:31 history of everything that's going on here they would love to have you out
00:36:34 here they would love to have you out

00:36:34 here they would love to have you out there with them on their mission
00:36:36 there with them on their mission

00:36:36 there with them on their mission together
00:36:36 together

00:36:36 together cyber Texas foundation is another gym
00:36:39 cyber Texas foundation is another gym

00:36:39 cyber Texas foundation is another gym that you mentioned that I think it's Co
00:36:40 that you mentioned that I think it's Co

00:36:40 that you mentioned that I think it's Co officing out of that facility we've had
00:36:43 officing out of that facility we've had

00:36:43 officing out of that facility we've had some folks from cyber Texas foundation
00:36:44 some folks from cyber Texas foundation

00:36:44 some folks from cyber Texas foundation on the program before you can go to our
00:36:47 on the program before you can go to our

00:36:47 on the program before you can go to our past episodes at WWDC our talk radio
00:36:51 past episodes at WWDC our talk radio

00:36:51 past episodes at WWDC our talk radio comm and learn more about cyber texas
00:36:52 comm and learn more about cyber texas

00:36:52 comm and learn more about cyber texas foundation but one of their big missions
00:36:54 foundation but one of their big missions

00:36:54 foundation but one of their big missions has been the expansion of CyberPatriot
00:36:57 has been the expansion of CyberPatriot

00:36:57 has been the expansion of CyberPatriot here all across the San Antonio area to
00:37:00 here all across the San Antonio area to

00:37:00 here all across the San Antonio area to where we are now the largest number of
00:37:03 where we are now the largest number of

00:37:03 where we are now the largest number of CyberPatriot teams that have any Metro
00:37:05 CyberPatriot teams that have any Metro

00:37:05 CyberPatriot teams that have any Metro anywhere in the u.s. so we've got kids
00:37:08 anywhere in the u.s. so we've got kids

00:37:08 anywhere in the u.s. so we've got kids getting interested in in cybersecurity
00:37:10 getting interested in in cybersecurity

00:37:10 getting interested in in cybersecurity and technology but there's always more
00:37:13 and technology but there's always more

00:37:13 and technology but there's always more that can happen because even with
00:37:15 that can happen because even with

00:37:15 that can happen because even with everything we're doing my numbers seem
00:37:17 everything we're doing my numbers seem

00:37:17 everything we're doing my numbers seem to tell me we're gonna be somewhere
00:37:18 to tell me we're gonna be somewhere

00:37:18 to tell me we're gonna be somewhere between a half a million and maybe as
00:37:20 between a half a million and maybe as

00:37:20 between a half a million and maybe as many as two million jobs open that are
00:37:24 many as two million jobs open that are

00:37:24 many as two million jobs open that are not going to be able to be filled by the
00:37:26 not going to be able to be filled by the

00:37:26 not going to be able to be filled by the middle of the next decade
00:37:27 middle of the next decade

00:37:27 middle of the next decade Wow that's what we hear there's zero
00:37:29 Wow that's what we hear there's zero

00:37:29 Wow that's what we hear there's zero percent unemployment for folks who
00:37:31 percent unemployment for folks who

00:37:31 percent unemployment for folks who really know what they're talking about
00:37:32 really know what they're talking about

00:37:32 really know what they're talking about when it comes to cybersecurity yeah I
00:37:34 when it comes to cybersecurity yeah I

00:37:34 when it comes to cybersecurity yeah I guess other things going on if you're in
00:37:37 guess other things going on if you're in

00:37:37 guess other things going on if you're in the Air Force who are thinking about
00:37:40 the Air Force who are thinking about

00:37:40 the Air Force who are thinking about joining the Air Force you can listen to
00:37:42 joining the Air Force you can listen to

00:37:42 joining the Air Force you can listen to Air Force cyber recruiting on another
00:37:44 Air Force cyber recruiting on another

00:37:44 Air Force cyber recruiting on another one of the past cyber talk radio
00:37:46 one of the past cyber talk radio

00:37:46 one of the past cyber talk radio programs that is still something that's
00:37:48 programs that is still something that's

00:37:48 programs that is still something that's active there the Air Force is growing
00:37:51 active there the Air Force is growing

00:37:51 active there the Air Force is growing their number of cyber professionals
00:37:52 their number of cyber professionals

00:37:52 their number of cyber professionals they're looking to help folks pay for
00:37:55 they're looking to help folks pay for

00:37:55 they're looking to help folks pay for that education to go learn all these
00:37:58 that education to go learn all these

00:37:58 that education to go learn all these things so money should not be a reason
00:38:01 things so money should not be a reason

00:38:01 things so money should not be a reason why you don't get involved in cyber
00:38:04 why you don't get involved in cyber

00:38:04 why you don't get involved in cyber security
00:38:05 security

00:38:05 security there's with that job shortage there's
00:38:08 there's with that job shortage there's

00:38:08 there's with that job shortage there's so many folks out there that scholarship
00:38:10 so many folks out there that scholarship

00:38:10 so many folks out there that scholarship programs and lots of things available
00:38:12 programs and lots of things available

00:38:12 programs and lots of things available for you to be able to to get that
00:38:15 for you to be able to to get that

00:38:15 for you to be able to to get that cybersecurity education paid for if
00:38:18 cybersecurity education paid for if

00:38:18 cybersecurity education paid for if you've got the passion and interest and
00:38:21 you've got the passion and interest and

00:38:21 you've got the passion and interest and show the desire and we'll do a little
00:38:22 show the desire and we'll do a little

00:38:22 show the desire and we'll do a little bit of legwork yourself to learn about
00:38:24 bit of legwork yourself to learn about

00:38:24 bit of legwork yourself to learn about the the different different options and
00:38:27 the the different different options and

00:38:27 the the different different options and opportunities so Jim I know as we got
00:38:30 opportunities so Jim I know as we got

00:38:30 opportunities so Jim I know as we got started on this program today we talked
00:38:32 started on this program today we talked

00:38:32 started on this program today we talked about the new 90,000 square foot
00:38:34 about the new 90,000 square foot

00:38:34 about the new 90,000 square foot building that opened up as part of
00:38:36 building that opened up as part of

00:38:36 building that opened up as part of project tech and that was kind of the
00:38:38 project tech and that was kind of the

00:38:38 project tech and that was kind of the the first building is the first real
00:38:41 the first building is the first real

00:38:41 the first building is the first real opened phase of that and of the bigger
00:38:44 opened phase of that and of the bigger

00:38:44 opened phase of that and of the bigger broader mission we got announced in May
00:38:48 broader mission we got announced in May

00:38:48 broader mission we got announced in May when it got announced there was this
00:38:50 when it got announced there was this

00:38:50 when it got announced there was this discussion of that there was already
00:38:52 discussion of that there was already

00:38:52 discussion of that there was already somebody that was gonna move in take a
00:38:54 somebody that was gonna move in take a

00:38:54 somebody that was gonna move in take a good chunk of the building that that God
00:38:58 good chunk of the building that that God

00:38:58 good chunk of the building that that God announced here in the end of June so May
00:39:00 announced here in the end of June so May

00:39:00 announced here in the end of June so May the building announcement grand opening
00:39:02 the building announcement grand opening

00:39:02 the building announcement grand opening ceremony the end of June who was the the
00:39:06 ceremony the end of June who was the the

00:39:06 ceremony the end of June who was the the first one to come out and move in there
00:39:08 first one to come out and move in there

00:39:08 first one to come out and move in there at project tax well we're really excited
00:39:10 at project tax well we're really excited

00:39:10 at project tax well we're really excited for several reasons it was Lockheed
00:39:11 for several reasons it was Lockheed

00:39:11 for several reasons it was Lockheed Martin that launched this building and
00:39:13 Martin that launched this building and

00:39:13 Martin that launched this building and we're excited for a personal reason as
00:39:15 we're excited for a personal reason as

00:39:15 we're excited for a personal reason as well Lockheed Martin was one of the
00:39:17 well Lockheed Martin was one of the

00:39:17 well Lockheed Martin was one of the companies that launched this port
00:39:19 companies that launched this port

00:39:19 companies that launched this port successfully 20 years ago they were
00:39:21 successfully 20 years ago they were

00:39:21 successfully 20 years ago they were there to take a chance on it the Alamo
00:39:24 there to take a chance on it the Alamo

00:39:24 there to take a chance on it the Alamo academies program was really
00:39:27 academies program was really

00:39:27 academies program was really kick-started by a woman named Marilyn
00:39:29 kick-started by a woman named Marilyn

00:39:29 kick-started by a woman named Marilyn Houston she was the VP who was in charge
00:39:31 Houston she was the VP who was in charge

00:39:31 Houston she was the VP who was in charge of this site not that long ago and she
00:39:34 of this site not that long ago and she

00:39:34 of this site not that long ago and she is now the chairwoman and president
00:39:36 is now the chairwoman and president

00:39:36 is now the chairwoman and president chief executive officer the Lockheed
00:39:37 chief executive officer the Lockheed

00:39:37 chief executive officer the Lockheed Martin corporation so Lockheed really
00:39:40 Martin corporation so Lockheed really

00:39:40 Martin corporation so Lockheed really has been a friend to this community and
00:39:41 has been a friend to this community and

00:39:41 has been a friend to this community and seeing them as our launch customer for
00:39:43 seeing them as our launch customer for

00:39:44 seeing them as our launch customer for this building is just fantastic but it's
00:39:47 this building is just fantastic but it's

00:39:47 this building is just fantastic but it's also fantastic because of what they're
00:39:48 also fantastic because of what they're

00:39:48 also fantastic because of what they're doing you know this the projects that
00:39:51 doing you know this the projects that

00:39:51 doing you know this the projects that they are pursuing the programs that
00:39:53 they are pursuing the programs that

00:39:53 they are pursuing the programs that they're pursuing really do show that San
00:39:55 they're pursuing really do show that San

00:39:56 they're pursuing really do show that San Antonio has the potential to be a major
00:39:58 Antonio has the potential to be a major

00:39:58 Antonio has the potential to be a major player in this cyber world we talk a lot
00:40:00 player in this cyber world we talk a lot

00:40:00 player in this cyber world we talk a lot about the 24th Air Force and the 25th
00:40:03 about the 24th Air Force and the 25th

00:40:03 about the 24th Air Force and the 25th Air Force less spoken about is HNC the
00:40:06 Air Force less spoken about is HNC the

00:40:06 Air Force less spoken about is HNC the lifecycle management the folks who
00:40:08 lifecycle management the folks who

00:40:08 lifecycle management the folks who actually buy the services the
00:40:11 actually buy the services the

00:40:11 actually buy the services the technologies the equipment that the Air
00:40:13 technologies the equipment that the Air

00:40:13 technologies the equipment that the Air Force uses and they're located right
00:40:16 Force uses and they're located right

00:40:16 Force uses and they're located right here at port San Antonio as well right
00:40:18 here at port San Antonio as well right

00:40:18 here at port San Antonio as well right Lackland annex and as what we're seeing
00:40:22 Lackland annex and as what we're seeing

00:40:22 Lackland annex and as what we're seeing is not just us talking about this future
00:40:25 is not just us talking about this future

00:40:25 is not just us talking about this future for cybersecurity in San Antonio but
00:40:27 for cybersecurity in San Antonio but

00:40:27 for cybersecurity in San Antonio but when companies like Lockheed Martin are
00:40:29 when companies like Lockheed Martin are

00:40:29 when companies like Lockheed Martin are opening a cybersecurity center here when
00:40:32 opening a cybersecurity center here when

00:40:32 opening a cybersecurity center here when Northrop Grumman opening their
00:40:33 Northrop Grumman opening their

00:40:33 Northrop Grumman opening their cybersecurity Center on this property
00:40:35 cybersecurity Center on this property

00:40:35 cybersecurity Center on this property when you have companies like IO Maxis IP
00:40:38 when you have companies like IO Maxis IP

00:40:38 when you have companies like IO Maxis IP secure Booz Allen radiance Fidelis
00:40:41 secure Booz Allen radiance Fidelis

00:40:41 secure Booz Allen radiance Fidelis you've got to get to the mindset that
00:40:43 you've got to get to the mindset that

00:40:43 you've got to get to the mindset that there's something actually going on that
00:40:46 there's something actually going on that

00:40:46 there's something actually going on that there really is a reason to invest in
00:40:48 there really is a reason to invest in

00:40:48 there really is a reason to invest in this industry in San Antonio and then
00:40:50 this industry in San Antonio and then

00:40:50 this industry in San Antonio and then people say Jim do you really mean it
00:40:52 people say Jim do you really mean it

00:40:52 people say Jim do you really mean it when you say that you can apply these
00:40:54 when you say that you can apply these

00:40:54 when you say that you can apply these technologies to aviation and yes we
00:40:57 technologies to aviation and yes we

00:40:57 technologies to aviation and yes we absolutely can you may have seen the
00:40:58 absolutely can you may have seen the

00:40:58 absolutely can you may have seen the news a while back that Boeing is
00:41:01 news a while back that Boeing is

00:41:01 news a while back that Boeing is doubling the employment on their campus
00:41:03 doubling the employment on their campus

00:41:03 doubling the employment on their campus can't tell you exactly how many people
00:41:05 can't tell you exactly how many people

00:41:05 can't tell you exactly how many people that is it's an awful lot they have a
00:41:07 that is it's an awful lot they have a

00:41:07 that is it's an awful lot they have a hundred seventy acre site down there and
00:41:10 hundred seventy acre site down there and

00:41:10 hundred seventy acre site down there and one of the big reasons they're doing it
00:41:12 one of the big reasons they're doing it

00:41:12 one of the big reasons they're doing it is because of the fa-18 program they're
00:41:15 is because of the fa-18 program they're

00:41:15 is because of the fa-18 program they're taking these airplanes that are almost
00:41:16 taking these airplanes that are almost

00:41:16 taking these airplanes that are almost as old as we are Brett and they're
00:41:18 as old as we are Brett and they're

00:41:18 as old as we are Brett and they're upgrading them to modern standards and
00:41:20 upgrading them to modern standards and

00:41:20 upgrading them to modern standards and yes part of that is making sure the
00:41:22 yes part of that is making sure the

00:41:22 yes part of that is making sure the wings will last and the engines will
00:41:24 wings will last and the engines will

00:41:24 wings will last and the engines will last and all that good stuff but a lot
00:41:26 last and all that good stuff but a lot

00:41:26 last and all that good stuff but a lot of it is taking airplanes that were
00:41:28 of it is taking airplanes that were

00:41:28 of it is taking airplanes that were designed in a different era with
00:41:30 designed in a different era with

00:41:30 designed in a different era with different communications and different
00:41:31 different communications and different

00:41:31 different communications and different security protocols and different flight
00:41:33 security protocols and different flight

00:41:33 security protocols and different flight decks and upgrading them to the modern
00:41:36 decks and upgrading them to the modern

00:41:36 decks and upgrading them to the modern standard standard arrows announced
00:41:38 standard standard arrows announced

00:41:38 standard standard arrows announced they're putting the better part of 15
00:41:39 they're putting the better part of 15

00:41:39 they're putting the better part of 15 billion dollars worth of work
00:41:41 billion dollars worth of work

00:41:41 billion dollars worth of work maintaining engines into the port San
00:41:43 maintaining engines into the port San

00:41:43 maintaining engines into the port San Antonio site and again it's going to
00:41:45 Antonio site and again it's going to

00:41:45 Antonio site and again it's going to come with a tremendous number of jobs
00:41:47 come with a tremendous number of jobs

00:41:47 come with a tremendous number of jobs but that's not just turning wrenches
00:41:49 but that's not just turning wrenches

00:41:49 but that's not just turning wrenches that is taking engines that are getting
00:41:52 that is taking engines that are getting

00:41:52 that is taking engines that are getting older and one of the things that
00:41:53 older and one of the things that

00:41:53 older and one of the things that standard aero is very justifiably proud
00:41:55 standard aero is very justifiably proud

00:41:55 standard aero is very justifiably proud of and that we're proud of to have them
00:41:57 of and that we're proud of to have them

00:41:57 of and that we're proud of to have them in this community is they're using big
00:41:59 in this community is they're using big

00:41:59 in this community is they're using big data and analytics and data to make
00:42:02 data and analytics and data to make

00:42:02 data and analytics and data to make those engines more efficient and last
00:42:05 those engines more efficient and last

00:42:05 those engines more efficient and last longer generating more power when they
00:42:07 longer generating more power when they

00:42:07 longer generating more power when they come out now than they did when they
00:42:09 come out now than they did when they

00:42:09 come out now than they did when they originally went in and that's a matter
00:42:11 originally went in and that's a matter

00:42:11 originally went in and that's a matter of changing the materials that were
00:42:13 of changing the materials that were

00:42:13 of changing the materials that were being used changing the geometry within
00:42:16 being used changing the geometry within

00:42:16 being used changing the geometry within the engine that type of applied
00:42:18 the engine that type of applied

00:42:18 the engine that type of applied technology the next phase of course is
00:42:20 technology the next phase of course is

00:42:20 technology the next phase of course is as you start to connect up these
00:42:22 as you start to connect up these

00:42:22 as you start to connect up these aircraft making sure that it's secure
00:42:25 aircraft making sure that it's secure

00:42:25 aircraft making sure that it's secure and this is where we see tremendous
00:42:28 and this is where we see tremendous

00:42:28 and this is where we see tremendous opportunity in San Antonio
00:42:30 opportunity in San Antonio

00:42:30 opportunity in San Antonio so we're personally ecstatic about
00:42:32 so we're personally ecstatic about

00:42:32 so we're personally ecstatic about Lockheed launching this building
00:42:34 Lockheed launching this building

00:42:34 Lockheed launching this building Lockheed launching us figuratively on
00:42:36 Lockheed launching us figuratively on

00:42:36 Lockheed launching us figuratively on this next stage in our evolution but we
00:42:39 this next stage in our evolution but we

00:42:39 this next stage in our evolution but we also use that as validation yeah no I
00:42:42 also use that as validation yeah no I

00:42:42 also use that as validation yeah no I mean it's it's great to see them come in
00:42:45 mean it's it's great to see them come in

00:42:45 mean it's it's great to see them come in and then take that first chunk of the
00:42:47 and then take that first chunk of the

00:42:47 and then take that first chunk of the space there and I think one of the great
00:42:53 space there and I think one of the great

00:42:53 space there and I think one of the great things that you have going on out there
00:42:54 things that you have going on out there

00:42:54 things that you have going on out there it's a number of private sector
00:42:58 it's a number of private sector

00:42:58 it's a number of private sector companies working private sector
00:43:01 companies working private sector

00:43:01 companies working private sector contracts but then you have separate
00:43:03 contracts but then you have separate

00:43:03 contracts but then you have separate space nearby separate teams on missions
00:43:07 space nearby separate teams on missions

00:43:07 space nearby separate teams on missions that may be classified that may require
00:43:09 that may be classified that may require

00:43:09 that may be classified that may require classified facilities and classified
00:43:11 classified facilities and classified

00:43:11 classified facilities and classified space and all of that can happen out
00:43:14 space and all of that can happen out

00:43:14 space and all of that can happen out there at the port and you have you have
00:43:17 there at the port and you have you have

00:43:17 there at the port and you have you have construction partners that know how to
00:43:19 construction partners that know how to

00:43:19 construction partners that know how to build that you have folks that have gone
00:43:22 build that you have folks that have gone

00:43:22 build that you have folks that have gone through and done that already with other
00:43:24 through and done that already with other

00:43:24 through and done that already with other buildings on the site so you can have a
00:43:26 buildings on the site so you can have a

00:43:26 buildings on the site so you can have a good idea of what can get approved and
00:43:28 good idea of what can get approved and

00:43:28 good idea of what can get approved and what can not get approved and how all
00:43:31 what can not get approved and how all

00:43:31 what can not get approved and how all those things can go along and then this
00:43:33 those things can go along and then this

00:43:33 those things can go along and then this is is one that makes San Antonio a
00:43:35 is is one that makes San Antonio a

00:43:35 is is one that makes San Antonio a special place because you look at having
00:43:38 special place because you look at having

00:43:38 special place because you look at having all the pieces in the ecosystem to be
00:43:40 all the pieces in the ecosystem to be

00:43:40 all the pieces in the ecosystem to be able to bring that type of stuff online
00:43:42 able to bring that type of stuff online

00:43:42 able to bring that type of stuff online to be able to have hundreds of folks
00:43:45 to be able to have hundreds of folks

00:43:45 to be able to have hundreds of folks every month that are retiring out of the
00:43:48 every month that are retiring out of the

00:43:48 every month that are retiring out of the services here at a Joint Base San
00:43:49 services here at a Joint Base San

00:43:49 services here at a Joint Base San Antonio that I already have clearances
00:43:52 Antonio that I already have clearances

00:43:52 Antonio that I already have clearances that can come work in these facilities
00:43:54 that can come work in these facilities

00:43:54 that can come work in these facilities for you and maybe they have a clearance
00:43:57 for you and maybe they have a clearance

00:43:57 for you and maybe they have a clearance and exactly the skills you need maybe
00:43:59 and exactly the skills you need maybe

00:43:59 and exactly the skills you need maybe they have a clearance and they don't
00:44:00 they have a clearance and they don't

00:44:00 they have a clearance and they don't have the skills you need but with
00:44:01 have the skills you need but with

00:44:01 have the skills you need but with companies like Microsoft put in the
00:44:04 companies like Microsoft put in the

00:44:04 companies like Microsoft put in the software and systems academy here they
00:44:07 software and systems academy here they

00:44:07 software and systems academy here they can run you through you could have been
00:44:09 can run you through you could have been

00:44:09 can run you through you could have been a aircraft mechanic in the Air Force and
00:44:12 a aircraft mechanic in the Air Force and

00:44:12 a aircraft mechanic in the Air Force and now you are getting trained on
00:44:15 now you are getting trained on

00:44:15 now you are getting trained on cybersecurity and you're going to come
00:44:16 cybersecurity and you're going to come

00:44:16 cybersecurity and you're going to come back and work in doing cybersecurity for
00:44:20 back and work in doing cybersecurity for

00:44:20 back and work in doing cybersecurity for Aeronautics systems and understand both
00:44:21 Aeronautics systems and understand both

00:44:21 Aeronautics systems and understand both ends of of that so you you've got a
00:44:24 ends of of that so you you've got a

00:44:24 ends of of that so you you've got a broad set of talent and the capabilities
00:44:28 broad set of talent and the capabilities

00:44:28 broad set of talent and the capabilities out there kind of end to end at that
00:44:29 out there kind of end to end at that

00:44:29 out there kind of end to end at that facility yes we absolutely do and we
00:44:32 facility yes we absolutely do and we

00:44:32 facility yes we absolutely do and we we're not forgetting that education and
00:44:34 we're not forgetting that education and

00:44:34 we're not forgetting that education and training component either first of all
00:44:36 training component either first of all

00:44:36 training component either first of all we want to see even more connectivity
00:44:38 we want to see even more connectivity

00:44:38 we want to see even more connectivity with the areas where you can truly train
00:44:41 with the areas where you can truly train

00:44:41 with the areas where you can truly train young people in this town and frankly
00:44:43 young people in this town and frankly

00:44:43 young people in this town and frankly not so young people you know whether it
00:44:46 not so young people you know whether it

00:44:46 not so young people you know whether it you could have been you could be a
00:44:47 you could have been you could be a

00:44:47 you could have been you could be a sergeant 20 years of Aeronautics
00:44:50 sergeant 20 years of Aeronautics

00:44:50 sergeant 20 years of Aeronautics mechanic work in the the Air Force and
00:44:53 mechanic work in the the Air Force and

00:44:53 mechanic work in the the Air Force and you could go through the Microsoft
00:44:55 you could go through the Microsoft

00:44:55 you could go through the Microsoft software and systems Academy start your
00:44:57 software and systems Academy start your

00:44:57 software and systems Academy start your next career because I mean most people
00:44:58 next career because I mean most people

00:44:58 next career because I mean most people that retire from the military in their
00:45:00 that retire from the military in their

00:45:00 that retire from the military in their late 30s or early 40s they're not ready
00:45:03 late 30s or early 40s they're not ready

00:45:03 late 30s or early 40s they're not ready to really be retired they're still want
00:45:05 to really be retired they're still want

00:45:05 to really be retired they're still want to go on that mission that's right and
00:45:06 to go on that mission that's right and

00:45:06 to go on that mission that's right and we want to keep them here because there
00:45:08 we want to keep them here because there

00:45:08 we want to keep them here because there are people with a lot of skills and a
00:45:09 are people with a lot of skills and a

00:45:09 are people with a lot of skills and a lot of talent not just programs like
00:45:12 lot of talent not just programs like

00:45:12 lot of talent not just programs like Cass Tech UTSA am San Antonio our Lady
00:45:15 Cass Tech UTSA am San Antonio our Lady

00:45:15 Cass Tech UTSA am San Antonio our Lady of the lake we've got the San Antonio
00:45:19 of the lake we've got the San Antonio

00:45:19 of the lake we've got the San Antonio multidisciplinary security operations
00:45:21 multidisciplinary security operations

00:45:21 multidisciplinary security operations center down on our property where
00:45:23 center down on our property where

00:45:23 center down on our property where they're doing some wonderful things
00:45:24 they're doing some wonderful things

00:45:24 they're doing some wonderful things teaching young people teaching
00:45:26 teaching young people teaching

00:45:26 teaching young people teaching transitioning veterans truly how to be
00:45:28 transitioning veterans truly how to be

00:45:28 transitioning veterans truly how to be cyber security professionals
00:45:30 cyber security professionals

00:45:30 cyber security professionals particularly people who understand the
00:45:32 particularly people who understand the

00:45:32 particularly people who understand the industries that they're working on what
00:45:34 industries that they're working on what

00:45:34 industries that they're working on what we'd like to see is the next step is
00:45:36 we'd like to see is the next step is

00:45:36 we'd like to see is the next step is more connectivity between the different
00:45:40 more connectivity between the different

00:45:40 more connectivity between the different areas of town we see some wonderful
00:45:42 areas of town we see some wonderful

00:45:42 areas of town we see some wonderful things going on at UTSA they're
00:45:43 things going on at UTSA they're

00:45:44 things going on at UTSA they're absolutely well known and well
00:45:45 absolutely well known and well

00:45:45 absolutely well known and well recognized but we've got five
00:45:47 recognized but we've got five

00:45:47 recognized but we've got five institutions in this city that have that
00:45:50 institutions in this city that have that

00:45:50 institutions in this city that have that NSA DHS certificate on their academic
00:45:53 NSA DHS certificate on their academic

00:45:53 NSA DHS certificate on their academic programs it's almost unheard of we've
00:45:55 programs it's almost unheard of we've

00:45:55 programs it's almost unheard of we've got programs like Texas A&M San Antonio
00:45:58 got programs like Texas A&M San Antonio

00:45:58 got programs like Texas A&M San Antonio which really are building a deserve
00:46:01 which really are building a deserve

00:46:01 which really are building a deserve specialty in that Internet of Things and
00:46:03 specialty in that Internet of Things and

00:46:03 specialty in that Internet of Things and that connected devices we see wonderful
00:46:05 that connected devices we see wonderful

00:46:05 that connected devices we see wonderful things at the high schools not just the
00:46:08 things at the high schools not just the

00:46:08 things at the high schools not just the information technology security Academy
00:46:10 information technology security Academy

00:46:10 information technology security Academy not just Cass Tech but an awful lot
00:46:12 not just Cass Tech but an awful lot

00:46:12 not just Cass Tech but an awful lot that's going on and this has been
00:46:14 that's going on and this has been

00:46:14 that's going on and this has been something I'm new to technology it
00:46:17 something I'm new to technology it

00:46:17 something I'm new to technology it strikes me we talk about a cyber
00:46:19 strikes me we talk about a cyber

00:46:19 strikes me we talk about a cyber security and technology industry and I'm
00:46:21 security and technology industry and I'm

00:46:21 security and technology industry and I'm really starting to be the opinion that
00:46:23 really starting to be the opinion that

00:46:23 really starting to be the opinion that that doesn't exist it's like when people
00:46:25 that doesn't exist it's like when people

00:46:25 that doesn't exist it's like when people say the manufacturing industry well your
00:46:28 say the manufacturing industry well your

00:46:28 say the manufacturing industry well your manufacturing potato chips your
00:46:29 manufacturing potato chips your

00:46:29 manufacturing potato chips your manufacturing cars your manufacturing
00:46:31 manufacturing cars your manufacturing

00:46:31 manufacturing cars your manufacturing computers yeah when I see cybersecurity
00:46:34 computers yeah when I see cybersecurity

00:46:34 computers yeah when I see cybersecurity when I see big data it's really how you
00:46:37 when I see big data it's really how you

00:46:37 when I see big data it's really how you apply it and as you said the application
00:46:40 apply it and as you said the application

00:46:40 apply it and as you said the application that you're going to have in one
00:46:41 that you're going to have in one

00:46:41 that you're going to have in one industry is going to be completely
00:46:43 industry is going to be completely

00:46:43 industry is going to be completely different than the application in the
00:46:44 different than the application in the

00:46:44 different than the application in the other industry this is our advantage in
00:46:46 other industry this is our advantage in

00:46:46 other industry this is our advantage in San Antonio we've got really deep bench
00:46:49 San Antonio we've got really deep bench

00:46:49 San Antonio we've got really deep bench in cybersecurity people who understand
00:46:52 in cybersecurity people who understand

00:46:52 in cybersecurity people who understand the technology we've got really really
00:46:54 the technology we've got really really

00:46:54 the technology we've got really really deep benches and energy in healthcare
00:46:56 deep benches and energy in healthcare

00:46:56 deep benches and energy in healthcare and aviation in manufacturing and
00:46:59 and aviation in manufacturing and

00:46:59 and aviation in manufacturing and we can put that together then there's
00:47:01 we can put that together then there's

00:47:01 we can put that together then there's gonna be great things for all of San
00:47:03 gonna be great things for all of San

00:47:03 gonna be great things for all of San Antonio yeah I mean there's a time and
00:47:06 Antonio yeah I mean there's a time and

00:47:06 Antonio yeah I mean there's a time and topic for another program but the the
00:47:08 topic for another program but the the

00:47:08 topic for another program but the the healthcare Internet of Things is you
00:47:09 healthcare Internet of Things is you

00:47:09 healthcare Internet of Things is you start looking if you have a pacemaker
00:47:11 start looking if you have a pacemaker

00:47:11 start looking if you have a pacemaker right now your pacemaker probably has
00:47:13 right now your pacemaker probably has

00:47:13 right now your pacemaker probably has Bluetooth in it and frankly that would
00:47:16 Bluetooth in it and frankly that would

00:47:16 Bluetooth in it and frankly that would scare me quite a bit because we've seen
00:47:18 scare me quite a bit because we've seen

00:47:18 scare me quite a bit because we've seen lots of problems with bluetooth over the
00:47:20 lots of problems with bluetooth over the

00:47:21 lots of problems with bluetooth over the years and I mean this is just a real
00:47:22 years and I mean this is just a real

00:47:22 years and I mean this is just a real great example of how this security
00:47:26 great example of how this security

00:47:26 great example of how this security technology needs to get baked into
00:47:27 technology needs to get baked into

00:47:27 technology needs to get baked into everything I mean if I don't have the
00:47:30 everything I mean if I don't have the

00:47:30 everything I mean if I don't have the pacemaker but if I did I would be
00:47:32 pacemaker but if I did I would be

00:47:32 pacemaker but if I did I would be figuring out asking how do I turn the
00:47:34 figuring out asking how do I turn the

00:47:34 figuring out asking how do I turn the Bluetooth off and with the the airplanes
00:47:37 Bluetooth off and with the the airplanes

00:47:37 Bluetooth off and with the the airplanes I mean we all want to get on planes that
00:47:38 I mean we all want to get on planes that

00:47:38 I mean we all want to get on planes that know where they're going I think it was
00:47:41 know where they're going I think it was

00:47:41 know where they're going I think it was a bit of bad news for the Navy when the
00:47:44 a bit of bad news for the Navy when the

00:47:44 a bit of bad news for the Navy when the boats ran into each other out there in
00:47:46 boats ran into each other out there in

00:47:46 boats ran into each other out there in the Pacific or this last year I mean so
00:47:49 the Pacific or this last year I mean so

00:47:49 the Pacific or this last year I mean so there's bad things happening out there
00:47:50 there's bad things happening out there

00:47:50 there's bad things happening out there there are bad people doing things to
00:47:52 there are bad people doing things to

00:47:52 there are bad people doing things to systems that functioning under normal
00:47:54 systems that functioning under normal

00:47:54 systems that functioning under normal conditions are gonna run great but we
00:47:56 conditions are gonna run great but we

00:47:56 conditions are gonna run great but we need to be thinking about the what could
00:47:58 need to be thinking about the what could

00:47:58 need to be thinking about the what could bad folks do to exploit these different
00:48:01 bad folks do to exploit these different

00:48:01 bad folks do to exploit these different types of systems under not ideal
00:48:03 types of systems under not ideal

00:48:03 types of systems under not ideal situations yeah so Jim for the the
00:48:09 situations yeah so Jim for the the

00:48:09 situations yeah so Jim for the the mission for the port so you guys are 20
00:48:11 mission for the port so you guys are 20

00:48:11 mission for the port so you guys are 20 years in and you you've been out there
00:48:14 years in and you you've been out there

00:48:14 years in and you you've been out there now for how many years three years three
00:48:16 now for how many years three years three

00:48:16 now for how many years three years three years for you so let's double up your
00:48:20 years for you so let's double up your

00:48:20 years for you so let's double up your term so what is what is a success look
00:48:22 term so what is what is a success look

00:48:22 term so what is what is a success look like three years out from from now on
00:48:24 like three years out from from now on

00:48:24 like three years out from from now on the port may be project tech specific
00:48:27 the port may be project tech specific

00:48:27 the port may be project tech specific but just for the the port overall well
00:48:29 but just for the the port overall well

00:48:29 but just for the the port overall well we'd like to see three years from now
00:48:31 we'd like to see three years from now

00:48:31 we'd like to see three years from now is several thousand more people working
00:48:34 is several thousand more people working

00:48:34 is several thousand more people working in applying technology on the property
00:48:38 in applying technology on the property

00:48:38 in applying technology on the property but more important than that we'd like
00:48:41 but more important than that we'd like

00:48:41 but more important than that we'd like to see it seamless when people think of
00:48:43 to see it seamless when people think of

00:48:43 to see it seamless when people think of San Antonio I don't want them thinking
00:48:44 San Antonio I don't want them thinking

00:48:44 San Antonio I don't want them thinking port San Antonio is where you go for
00:48:47 port San Antonio is where you go for

00:48:47 port San Antonio is where you go for Applied Technology I don't want them
00:48:49 Applied Technology I don't want them

00:48:49 Applied Technology I don't want them thinking downtown is where you go for
00:48:51 thinking downtown is where you go for

00:48:51 thinking downtown is where you go for cloud and app I don't want them thinking
00:48:53 cloud and app I don't want them thinking

00:48:53 cloud and app I don't want them thinking UTSA is where you go for education if we
00:48:57 UTSA is where you go for education if we

00:48:57 UTSA is where you go for education if we can truly start closing this market I
00:49:00 can truly start closing this market I

00:49:00 can truly start closing this market I get so frustrated when I hear really
00:49:02 get so frustrated when I hear really

00:49:02 get so frustrated when I hear really great companies in San Antonio and you
00:49:05 great companies in San Antonio and you

00:49:05 great companies in San Antonio and you ask who are your customers and they're
00:49:06 ask who are your customers and they're

00:49:06 ask who are your customers and they're almost all out of town yeah and we've
00:49:08 almost all out of town yeah and we've

00:49:08 almost all out of town yeah and we've got people in this
00:49:09 got people in this

00:49:09 got people in this who are some of the biggest companies
00:49:11 who are some of the biggest companies

00:49:11 who are some of the biggest companies some of the biggest buyers in the world
00:49:13 some of the biggest buyers in the world

00:49:13 some of the biggest buyers in the world buying technology and they're buying it
00:49:15 buying technology and they're buying it

00:49:15 buying technology and they're buying it from out of town
00:49:16 from out of town

00:49:16 from out of town what we want to do is be part of the
00:49:18 what we want to do is be part of the

00:49:18 what we want to do is be part of the catalyst for closing that market and you
00:49:20 catalyst for closing that market and you

00:49:20 catalyst for closing that market and you close that market
00:49:21 close that market

00:49:21 close that market I shouldn't say close the market and
00:49:23 I shouldn't say close the market and

00:49:23 I shouldn't say close the market and close the circle so the buyers and
00:49:25 close the circle so the buyers and

00:49:25 close the circle so the buyers and sellers are connected that's where
00:49:27 sellers are connected that's where

00:49:27 sellers are connected that's where you're gonna grow that market and more
00:49:29 you're gonna grow that market and more

00:49:29 you're gonna grow that market and more important you're gonna have that
00:49:30 important you're gonna have that

00:49:30 important you're gonna have that spin-off so that we are selling these
00:49:32 spin-off so that we are selling these

00:49:32 spin-off so that we are selling these technologies to the world if we do that
00:49:35 technologies to the world if we do that

00:49:35 technologies to the world if we do that we can write our own future thank you
00:49:37 we can write our own future thank you

00:49:37 we can write our own future thank you very much for joining us this week Jim
00:49:39 very much for joining us this week Jim

00:49:39 very much for joining us this week Jim if you just tuned in to us on 1200 W a
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